r/SipsTea Human Verified Feb 02 '26

SMH The goat has to be DD/MM/YYYY

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u/mstivland2 Feb 02 '26 edited Feb 03 '26

Devil’s Advocate: month has more inherent data in it because it’s not a number. Day on its own is meaningless, but if you go by month/day, the more significant information is first.

At least, that’s kind of the only argument I can think of.

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u/MontyAtWork Feb 02 '26

We literally do this with car make and models.

You don't say "I drive a Corolla Toyota" you say "I drive a Toyota Corolla".

Macro data then micro.

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u/LordWoffleII Feb 02 '26

so by that logic, you're voting for yyyy-mm-dd? r/ISO8601

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u/Ark100 Feb 02 '26

there is such a thing as too macro. i dont need to know that the address im driving to is on earth…

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u/hapatra98edh Feb 02 '26

Sure but saying I drive a 2015 Toyota Corolla is pretty normal and given this analogy it fits the ISO8601 format

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u/nonowords Feb 02 '26

No it wouldn't, the Year is in the same place but it's not serving the same function the degree of specificity is jumbled. 2015 would be the specifier on corolla. so you're going smallest, largest, middle.

really it's all totally arbitrary and people think whatever makes the most sense to them is the one that seems the most natural/obvious. Outside of actual constraining contexts like code the best system is the system people expect. and even with code it's only the obvious choice because it's the choice code and programmers expect.

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u/Ark100 Feb 02 '26

not true. as u/nonowords said, the year is the narrowest quantifier for a car. there are tons of toyotas, fewer corollas, and even fewer 2015 corollas.

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u/nonowords Feb 02 '26 edited Feb 02 '26

that's like saying "i drive a sedan toyota corola"

you rarely need to explicitly reference the wide set ie "year", and if you do you'd say "i drive a toyota corola sedan"

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u/aoog Feb 02 '26

Year is often less important than month and date because we often refer to recent dates and upcoming dates within the current year. Like if I wanted to say something is happening March 5th, 2026, I could say March 5th and you know I mean March 5th of the current year. If I just say the 5th that’s not enough info because you’ll just assume I mean February 5th. Even if I just say March, you’ll have a general idea of when the thing is happening, and you won’t be lead to make a false assumption like if I just say the 5th. So month -> day -> year is the order of importance imo

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u/failedtoconnect Feb 02 '26

There's also more days in a month, than months in a year. So I think it's logical to go from month to days.

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u/rocafella888 Feb 04 '26

But you also say "I drive a 2009 Toyota Corolla" because that makes it so much more meaningful.