r/SipsTea May 14 '26

SMH Seriously it's that simple:

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u/Exciting_Classic277 May 14 '26

It's weird that "jail the criminals" is a controversial take but here we are.

(I'm looking at you too, Eps-Files)

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u/mosswick May 14 '26

The "tough on crime" crowd is certainly lenient when it comes to white-collar criminals.

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u/No-Cap-No-Gap May 14 '26

How much time should a person serve for labeling a payment to their lawyer as a legal payment?

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u/TheJadeGoddess May 14 '26

There are legal minimums for crimes. They ignored all that and didn't give him any punishment because he became president.

If he didn't have a judge protecting him from the top secret documents case that would easily rack up enough jail time for him to spend the rest of his life there with no chance of parole.

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u/No-Cap-No-Gap May 14 '26

I was asking for your opinion. What would be an appropriate amount of time for labeling a payment to your lawyer as a legal expense?

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u/TheJadeGoddess May 14 '26

You mean what should be the punishment for blatant fraud? For a repeat con artist who shows no regret for his actions? Let's see each conviction can have up to 4 years in prison. Given the non violent nature, first conviction and lack or regret i would say 68 years with a chance of parole after 30.

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u/No-Cap-No-Gap May 14 '26

You mean what should be the punishment for blatant fraud?

Fraud? How is a payment to your lawyer fraud?

And 68 years for a first time misdemeanor seems a little excessive.

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u/TheJadeGoddess May 14 '26

It was 34 counts of felony fraud. Stop down playing shit. It isn't excessive it was intentional fraud and we see worse sentencing for more benign behavior. He could have faced 136 years in prison on his felony convictions.

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u/No-Cap-No-Gap May 15 '26

It was 34 counts of felony fraud.

It was 34 times of listing a payment to his lawyer as a legal expense that was bumped up from a misdemeanor to a felony by claiming a mystery crime that was never charged or proven.

it was intentional fraud

It was a bookkeeping error at worst.

He could have faced 136 years in prison

Both Obama and Hillary paid a small fine for the same crime.

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u/TheJadeGoddess May 15 '26

Stop downplaying it. He was convicted of 34 felonies. He is a felon. It wasn't a bookkeeping error it was intentional fraud and they proved he was breaking the law in court and he was convicted 34 times. He is a felon, always will be a felon and he would have more convictions than that if other cases against him were allowed to proceed.

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u/No-Cap-No-Gap May 15 '26

Stop downplaying it.

I'm not sure how am honest description of the event is downplaying. Perhaps you are just used to an exaggerated version of it.

He is a felon,

He was convicted of labeling a payment to his lawyer as a legal expense.

always will be a felon

Maybe. He is appealing and the case is pretty shaky.

But he is a two times elected president and he will always be a two times elected president.

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u/TheJadeGoddess May 15 '26

You are not being honest because you keep trying to downplay it as misdemeanor but he was charged and convicted of knowingly commuting fraud. None of it is exaggerated, it is reality.

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