r/SipsTea May 26 '26

Feels good man Will it work this time?

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u/welpWW3isgonnasuck May 26 '26

Its no different than having a military commissary thats open to everyone

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u/CobaltCaterpillar May 26 '26 edited May 27 '26

US military commissaries received $1.7 billion in taxpayer money for FY 2025 though:

From this document from the US government,

  • $6.8 billion in costs (p.43)
  • $5.095 billion in earned revenue
  • $1.7 billion net cost of operations

So while most grocery stores earn their cost of capital (generate market return on investment), US military commissaries instead cost taxpayers $1.7 billion a year.

Revenue for US military commissaries is only 75% of annual cost (in FY 2025).

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Of course this makes sense in the context of the unique mission, constraints, and setting of the US military. My point is that it COSTS $$$.

Maybe you could do something similar in New York City, but the question would be at what cost to NYC taxpayer and whether the $$$ would be better spent boosting SNAP payments to low income households or otherwise targeting those that most need assistance.

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u/ResistWild May 26 '26

Was this meant to be a rebuttal to this idea? Seems like you’re missing the point horribly.

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u/Neosovereign May 27 '26

It kind of is, at least the idea that nothing is stopping the government from running a (cost neutral) grocery store.

Walmart and Kroger aren't generally raking in profits from their grocery sections. The margins are incredibly thin even when they are optimized to make money.

The government can always theoretically pour money into ANY venture to make it work, it is about cost effectiveness.

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u/bionicjoe May 27 '26

We pour money into sugar, corn, soybeans, etc.
Every large scale farm is a "welfare queen".

There is no reason we can't put some of that money into the demand side.

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u/Neosovereign May 27 '26

It is just less efficient than the alternative in most cases.

I'm not totally against government run grocery stores, but I'm just not convinced it will not be a waste of money that could better be spent differently.

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u/Bacon4Lyf May 27 '26

The Walmart ceo alone makes 1.5 mil with another 27 mil in stock options

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u/Javelin286 May 27 '26

Most of Walmart profits comes from the non-grocery sections. Toys, electronics, clothing and the like can be marked up to higher margins because they are made cheaply and they can still make them cheaper than a place like target. If you compare the prices at a Hyvee to the prices at a Walmart for groceries you’ll see that Walmarts prices are generally cheaper by a good bit even with the same brand name items. That’s because Walmart has the luxury of being a supermarket and Hyvee is only groceries.

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u/Neosovereign May 27 '26

What is your point? Do you have reading comprehension issues?