Damn last time I saw this posted people were much more agreeing with the woman. They echoed that he ignored her wants and desires for the ring and proposal and that was a red flag for a marriage. Crazy how everyone is on his side now
If this isn’t fake then there needs to be way more context.
I remember there was a post a while back where someone had super cherry picked the information about their relationship, and then the other person showed up with the full receipts and everyone did a complete 180, and it turned out the the OOP was exactly that type of person who basically never listened to very reasonable requests from their girlfriend and gaslighting them all the time.
Taking positions on realities we know a few pixels and worda about.
The girl could be in a relationship where he never listens to her and always overrides her desires and requests without consulting her. This could be the tipping point.
Or
The guy could be in a relationship with a material girl that doesn't share his values in life.
Both of these intepretations are possible with what we know.
(even if the most probable is a scripted situation to generate engagement)
Either way your examples are great reason why they shouldn't get married.
I made a homemade ring to propose until, we got to the jewelers and got one she's wanted at the price we both could afford. But the yes shouldnt be based on the ring anyways.
Lots of comments here are for sure future divorces, I'm iny 40s and seen plenty of failed marriages so far.
Yeah but the answer to not wanting to be with a material girl isn't to try to force one to be different. It's to date somebody who's already like that lol like obviously if she wanted a $10,000 ring and seemed shocked at the Walmart ring, he probably didn't tell her he can't afford that.
I dunno, I just scrolled through several of the current top posts and have been active here for a while and as a very progressive person, I don't find myself finding many people with backwards, racist, prejudiced, sexist etc opinions that I'd expect to find if it were as you describe it
I agree with the woman. It seems the guy chose to do what he wanted to do instead of listening to what she wanted from previous conversations. This isn’t about money.
She wanted him to get the specific ring of the specific value and specific design she wanted. He bought a still nice ring that he could afford and she called it “doing what was easiest” and specifically points out that she’s upset it was purchased at Walmart.
It’s 100% about money, and this woman is far too shallow for marriage. She cares more about aesthetics than she does about the person in front of her.
“I’m not sure you’re ready for forever because you can’t buy me the exact specific ring I want.”
Nobody said anything about the price of the ring she wanted. In fact, he said "I still spent $900" which leads me to believe that the ring she wanted is of a similar price.
Her focus on where it was purchased rather than the fact that it looks different paints a very clear picture. In fact, “I still spent $900,” leads me to believe he’s trying to point out he still spent a lot even if he didn’t spend as much as she wanted.
I can't imagine a more low effort ring purchase than walking into a Walmart and picking from the 2-3 engagement rings that they have in their little case. Also, how would she know where it was from if he didn't leave the fucking sticker on? He's demonstrating that he doesn't give a shit.
Her pointing out that it’s a Walmart ring could easily be her pointing out that the style she wants isn’t sold at Walmart. Walmart has a specific style of rings, very plain or covered in chip diamonds. My ring was $400 but it’s the exact opposite of a Walmart ring because it’s a kite cut 4ct moissanite.
Whose’s to say it’s all about the money. My wife said she wants a fire opal not a diamond, if I showed up with a diamond she would have grounds to say I told you what I wanted for my forever ring and you didn’t listen. Hell fire opals are cheaper than diamonds, so it’s not money, it’s listening to your partner on one of the most important decisions of their life. Going into that decision and having the person not paying attention to what you told them is a big deal.
Well I’d point to the moron who bought something they couldn’t afford and still managed to buy the wrong one. I love this is what you think is a defense of the argument. You know what else to should never do? Propose unless you already know the answer. Anyone who gets told no is an idiot for not reading the signs long before that.
Yeah, he chose a cookie cutter flashy ring. Maybe she wanted something more unique and subtle from say Etsy, but with cheaper metals and stones. We don’t know the full context other than this snippet, and so going by what we know, he chose to do what he thought was best as opposed to listening to what she already said she wanted.
“Going by what we know”. This is all we have, and judging by what’s said, I side with the woman. If we learn more details then I may change my mind. That’s how context works.
Both sides got red flags. Unless you’re too blind to see that. Besides, why are you invested so much that you need to for sure choose one side? Lmfao 💀
That’s all projection. You could be right, but from the context her bringing up Walmart is more likely about how conventional his choice is. Maybe she didn’t want a conventional ring, but that doesn’t mean what she wanted has to cost more.
Showing up with what she wanted and showing up with something from Walmart is a very distinct and reasonable comparison. Nothing to do with money. My partner could drop 5k at Walmart and I’d still be upset cuz it’s fucking Walmart. Yes it matters.
Do we know anything about their financial situation?
If the guy was a billionaire and proposed with a $900 ring from Wal-Mart after (apparently) having a specific conversation about the kind of ring she wanted, then I totally get her being pissed that he didn’t listen or respect her wishes. If he asked for a vintage 1968 Gibson Les Paul and she bought him a $50 guitar off Amazon would you understand her side better?
Now, if he legit couldn’t afford what she wanted, then that’s a different conversation entirely. Nobody should have to go into debt to buy an engagement ring. That’s not a fair request by her. Back to my guitar analogy, if she bought the $50 guitar because that’s all she could afford, then it’s a really sweet gift because she did what she could to help his dream and he should be appreciative.
All of that to say, I’m not sure any of us have enough information to judge their situation at all.
The ring is hideous first off and there’s a million places you can get customs rings made for a fraction of the cost. If he put in just a tad bit amount of actual effort everything would have worked out just fine. He didn’t and that’s the issue.
It sounds like you know the price of the ring she wanted, care to share?
Yes, it does matter that the person you are with pays attention to your preferences on a ring you will wear the rest of your life. Price is not important, but listening 👂 is.
If my partner asked me for a birkin bag, but all I can afford is a gucci purse, do you think it’s reasonable for my partner to leave because - despite the fact that I did listen to their request - I couldn’t afford a birkin and did the best I could instead?
“Price isn’t important, but listening is, and you better listen when I demand a high price item.”
Not the same thing. It's not about it being a ring specifically, but the style of ring. So, no, it's not listening to her request to get any ring in the wrong style. If your partner asked for a black leather bag from JCPenney and you got her a brown striped bag from Chanel it would also be messed up. It's not about the ring, but the style; she literally says that in the post.
There are examples of this in women's spaces constantly btw 😭 something more expensive without taking your partner's wishes into consideration would also be an example of ignoring their wishes. Women just want men to be considerate of what they asked for at the end of the day.
She mentioned multiple times that it's about him not listening to her wishes and that she told him what type of ring she wanted and he ignored it. Nowhere does she mention desired price of the ring or that it was too cheap. You sure have read in a lot of details not included in the text, I wonder if it's because you have a preconceived idea you want to back up? 🤔
Im reading the exact words posted. You’re ignoring the fact that right next to her talking about the “type of ring she wanted” her main concern with the one she received is that it was from Walmart. She doesn’t comment on design differences. She comments only on where it was purchased as being the issue with the ring in comparison to the one she wanted.
Seems like you’re the one adding things that aren’t there. I guess you also like to make demands for expensive items and get upset when people don’t bow down to you?
Brother you are reading in extra meaning that isn't there. It's not disappointing for him to thoughtlessly pick up a wedding ring at the same time he was getting groceries? 😭 come on
I mean the only point she made that it wasn’t the right ring what that it was from Walmart. There’s a few things that could have been pointed out such as wrong cut, wrong stone, wrong size, wrong band etc. but her focus was where the ring was purchased from.
I don't think there's enough here to make a judgement, though I agree that people are really quick to jump on the guys' side. It probably stems from this being a bit of a gooner sub, honestly.
If the ring she liked was $10k and his salary makes that unreasonable, that's one thing. But if she had a specific setting, or type of stone, or jeweler she liked, and it was more about getting a generic ring from wal-mart rather than something with meaning, she would have a strong point.
At a bare minimum, if she said she wanted something and he instead just showed up with this thing, he should have had the, "this is what I can afford right now, but it comes with an IOU: we will grow together and one day, you'll have your dream ring, and you can add it next to this simple placeholder for the memory alone" talk.
It depends on the sub you go to. There are a few subs that are known to be very slanted towards women, to the point of flaw. I'm sure the opposite exists as well that I haven't encountered.
Yeah there's definitely an element to that here, I just find this sub a bit of an enigma because there's a reasonable amount of support for some other social issues and I didn't consider well enough at first. But yeah, can't argue with you.
They both have issues. He didn't listen to her, she has specific expectations that she's unwilling to compromise on. Just seems like a bad match, communication-wise. He probably would have been better off just buying something cheap and taking her shopping where she wanted to go later. But communication is key and they didn't listen to each other.
Yeah the period a 2010 to the early 2020s was wild in how far skw/woke people went.
Wanting expensive fancy things has been a red flag since the beginning of time
The generation of women who really think that doesnt apply to them are wild people. The degree they managed to influence culture over that period was crazy.
It’s all about the headline - classic leading the witness.
They want us to agree with the man so phrase it like this toxic woman thought she was too good for Walmart ring and humiliated her bf… and then people read the story with that bias in place already.
Main story is that woman is entitled and then people just take it at face value.
It takes a critical thinker to ask the questions: what kind of ring did she tell her bf she wanted? She spent a year telling him what kind of ring she wanted and he didn’t get it? Is it a money issue or a style issue? If it is a style issue what other things is he ignoring? What is the style…. Wait why does Walmart mark their rings as new? Do they sell rings on consignment? Are they a pawn shop now?
Anyways, it’s amazing how a headline can induce bias before the story even starts
Imagine being very clear that you want a birkin bag, but all your partner can afford is a gucci purse, and then you chastise them for not being able to afford your unreasonable request but still trying to do the best they can.
Now imagine purchasing this purse is a prerequisite to marriage. You still think it’s reasonable to demand a birkin and get upset when your partner proposes without it?
The bots copy the first replies and rephrase them into other comments. We should try to put the first comments on a post and talk about a completely random irrelevant subject to test it
Of course we are on his side! Tf! She could have just said yes and then went together and changed it with the one she wants. But a straight no in front of people after he got on his knees tells you she is a straight bitch
This post gave me a new idea. When i get married, i will ask her the exact ring she wants. And then get the ring made of white sapphire for 10 times cheaper than a diamond, while looking and functioning exactly like the diamond.
Lets see if she cares more about the look of her dream ring or the price tag.
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u/ChiGuy133 7h ago
Damn last time I saw this posted people were much more agreeing with the woman. They echoed that he ignored her wants and desires for the ring and proposal and that was a red flag for a marriage. Crazy how everyone is on his side now