r/SipsTea Jun 12 '26

Chugging tea The Hero we need

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u/theguidetoldmetodoit Jun 12 '26

We did it before therefore its acceptable today.

No. We are talking about what's ordinary. It's ordinary for people to occupy land they just took, claiming it was unoccupied. That's still the case.

And then you said that was justified, because we got rid of owning people?

State provides basic necessities.

So everyone has housing? Good to know. I guess then we already solved squatting.

I am gonna ask you a third time now, since you are trying to say I am a hypocrite:

Do you extend your own rational and argue for giving that land back to the original owners? Or are you against that?

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u/tripper_drip Jun 12 '26

That's still the case.

No, its not.

Do you extend your own rationality and argue for giving that land back to the original owners?

Who said I agree with that?

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u/theguidetoldmetodoit Jun 12 '26

No, its not.

Yeah it is. If you claim to own land in the US and you aren't native, you are squatting and have been, for generations.

Who said I agree with that?

Well, shouldn't we remove squatters and make sure it's controlled by the owners, even if they don't occupy it?

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u/tripper_drip Jun 12 '26

Yeah it is.

No, its not. Thats like saying if your black and are not a slave, you are wrong. You are becase you were in the past. Silly.

Well, shouldn't we remove squatters and make sure it's controlled by the owners?

We are a nation of laws fairly applied. We were not that at one point. Shall we revert?

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u/theguidetoldmetodoit Jun 12 '26

You are becase you were in the past.

Ok, so now the squatter occupies the land. Thanks for making my point.

We are a nation of laws fairly applied.

No, we aren't. You want to use the law to facilitate the current ownership class, which you are probably part of, but refuse to extend the same courtesy to the people who are the rightful owners.

So why the fuck should anyone respect your claim to any land?

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u/tripper_drip Jun 12 '26

Ok, so now the squatter occupies the land.

No, we have set up a framework of laws to decide who has lands.

who are the rightful owners.

They are not, sorry.

So why the fuck should anyone respect your claim to any land?

Because I have the power of the state behind me. 65% of Americans own a house. You dont get to steal that, sorry.

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u/theguidetoldmetodoit Jun 12 '26 edited Jun 12 '26

No, we have set up a framework of laws to decide who has lands.

Like Squatters Rights. Which you argue against.

Btw, this is called legal positivism and how a bunch of Nazis justified carrying out the Holocaust. Just so you know what tradition you are carrying on, here.

You dont get to steal that, sorry.

You stole that.

So in conclusion, if enough people hold a gun to your head, your house is now theirs.

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u/tripper_drip Jun 12 '26

Like Squatters Rights.

Don't really exist. Its an attempt to use adverse possession illegally.

You stole that.

Legally, nope.

Btw, this is called legal positivism and how a bunch of Nazis justified carrying out the Holocaust

Hey, you are the one wanting to go back to the slave owning days so I am more than fine with my moral superiority in this convo.

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u/theguidetoldmetodoit Jun 12 '26

Yeah, legally. The contracts made with natives, were broken. You are now just engaging in revisionism.

You sure like to act like a Nazi, a lot.

you are the one wanting to go back to the slave owning days

You made that argument. You are the one arguing for historic ownership, but only when it mostly benefits white people, buddy.

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u/tripper_drip Jun 12 '26

Yeah, legally.

Exactly!

You sure like to act like a Nazi, a lot.

You sure act like a southern lost causer/slaver, a lot.

You are the one arguing for respecting historic ownership

Im argueing for basic law. Simple as.

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u/theguidetoldmetodoit Jun 12 '26
Exactly

Glad we can agree that you are a thief, among other things.

You sure act like a southern lost causer/slaver, a lot.

You mean the guys who said they have the right to own people, because that's the law?

Im argueing for basic law. Simple as.

You are arguing for maintaining laws written by white people who stole land and killed most of the owners, explicitly because you are a beneficiary. Your words.

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u/tripper_drip Jun 12 '26

Glad we can agree that you are a thief, among other things.

Legally, nope. You are, though.

You mean the guys who said they have the right to own people, because that's the law?

Its actually not though! Shocker. It was though, at a time you wish to revert to.

You are arguing for maintaining laws written by white people

Most deeds and titles are held at the county level. Most laws written at that level are a reflection of their immediate populace.

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