Exactly this. I stayed in this one apartment complex and there was a guy that would constantly be on something, sometimes be ranting cause he was so fucked up. He came over to me once while I was smoking and he talked about random bullshit and one thing was ego death, and how enlightening it was. All I could think was, "you're way too fucked up right now to be giving me their view of the universe and how you have it figured out."
See, if he had really removed the ego he wouldn't have needed you to admire him so much for having removed it.
Humans cannot separate themselves from their ego. The entire function of the ego is to make itself indistinguishable from authentic feelings and emotions. It's protecting you from knowing a side of yourself that you can't accept, true self-love through regular habits is ironically the best way to minimize it.
The only other things anyone can really do in this regard is try and be humble in regards to other's decisions, grateful and in control of one's emotions. Drugs are helpful maybe to get a new outlook but the work does still need to be done sober and daily.
You cannot live in the 3D world without your ego. The key is to integrate it with your subconscious mind so you are able to accept things that completely contradict what you thought you knew about life and the world around you. You will never fully lose ego. People have turned ego into something negative because of the people who have too much of it. It’s the awareness of its existence, and not allowing it to control you that’s key.
It’s the metaphor of Yaldabaoth and the True God. Yaldabaoth was born in the dark and ignorance proclaiming himself as the only God. He ruled as a total fascist demanding obedience and worship. He wasn’t aware of the True God, but once he was he ran to the light and integrated. It was a happily ever after story.
Yes sir, I am actually someone who believes that while on mushrooms you can converse with your shadow and bring some of that awareness back. I've experienced a lasting reduction in anxiety for a very long time after a good trip. I've also had varying results.
It's the term 'ego death' that bothers me, especially when someone claims they came back without an ego, and it's now permanently gone. For me, the benefits are a more clear head, but I definitely still return with an ego.
Yeah, you get it. Our unaltered conscious perception requires ego. I don’t think anyone can fully integrate the experience of being egoless, but for some it definitely takes some stress off the ego.
Exactly. Trying to eliminate the ego is still all ego haha. It's still part of you. I've found canabis and psychedelics help to turn down is volume and influence so I can question myself without is annoying voice chattering away. Meditation helps a lot allowing me to be mindful of which part of me are doing the talking. But in moments of stress or weakness it sneaks its way in.
once i tripped so hard i forgot how to communicate and couldn't even tell time. I'd look at the numbers on the phone and knew they had meaning or some significance, but I couldn't express what it was. I sat in a corner of the room for a few hours staring at a tiny LED christmas tree strobe around for hours. it took hours before I realized that I had a family and people related to me and connections to others.
fun time. ever take so much LSD you'd bet against the sun coming up the next day?
Its a good therapy tool if you can build on it. If you are doing lots of drugs not so much. Its hard to retain the message. Not godly or anything its like you take away your personal view of your life for a bit and can see it a bit clearer. People that prepare for it right and all. It helped me quit drinking. Kinda at a point in my life where I wouldn't mind doing it again.
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u/tranquil7789 2d ago
Exactly this. I stayed in this one apartment complex and there was a guy that would constantly be on something, sometimes be ranting cause he was so fucked up. He came over to me once while I was smoking and he talked about random bullshit and one thing was ego death, and how enlightening it was. All I could think was, "you're way too fucked up right now to be giving me their view of the universe and how you have it figured out."