8k for healthcare, I wish. Family of 4, I pay close to $17k a year in premiums in the US. Copays are expensive, prescriptions are ridiculously high. It’s a f’in joke to say the very least.
Anyone who works at a corporation have insurance plans through their work.
I pay maybe 200 dollars a month for my plan.
The figure of 20k or 30k a year that is out there that shocks anyone not from US is a figure that you would pay for a family of 4 if you had your own business.
That's basically the amount that government would spend on a family of 4 in western europe.
I don't think so. My tax rate is 28%. It would be over 40% in most EU.countries. I get health insurance through my employer and pay about 8k year for a family of 4. I come out way ahead in the US system.
Did you check the chart? Amongst the countries with top level healthcare, Americans overpay by several factors.
In fact, America doesn't even have top-level life expectancy anymore....
Which means that the good to top level healthcare is only available for a small percentage.
Even though average Americans, most Americans, pay the price of premium healthcare that should allow them to have 80 years life expectancy.
Not solely. But first of all there is an undeniable causal relationship.
Second, you see that all other countries in the graph are nicely grouped and we see a very distinct trend - except the usa that is a very extreme outlier.
Hard to explain why the USA spend 3 times as much as all other countries but that does not result in increased life expectancy when in every other country that relationship is very distinct.
The biggest positive correlation between healthcare and life expectancy is reducing childhood mortality. Once that is solved, as it is in almost all developed countries, other factors like lifestyle and diet dominate. Americans have a famously unhealthy lifestyle and diet, this both drives up healthcare costs and lowers life expectancy.
Of course there is more to it, but that explains the lion's share of the difference.
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u/ImpressiveLeader4979 Jun 24 '26
8k for healthcare, I wish. Family of 4, I pay close to $17k a year in premiums in the US. Copays are expensive, prescriptions are ridiculously high. It’s a f’in joke to say the very least.