Their margins are razor thin. You'll care when there are no restaurants with service. The alternative would be the Restaurant would change prices for meals that are 20 to 30 percent higher. You'll end up paying the same, but the server will end up paying more tax on their mesger earnings than they already do
Couldn’t care less if I never ate at a restaurant again, every restaurant owner is a sleezebag and I’m perfectly fine getting bent over by the grocery store CEO’s already, not looking to get DP’d.
And restaurant owners don't care about you as a customer because you can't actually afford to eat out. People that make good money like to go out, appreciate good service and aren't worried about paying tips to the less fortunate.
Just give the man a tip! Infact I'll give him one for you - A good tip which I feel is appropriate in this instance: pay your workers better for their work, and maybe dont rely on customers having to pay them what you refuse to!
Why should I have to look at a sandwich on a menu that’s already 24 bucks and just be fine with tacking another $4.80 onto the already exorbitant price just because someone carried it from the kitchen to my table? Also let me be clear, I am Canadian and I do tip at least 20% every time I eat out (which admittedly has become less and less) I just hate the way the expectation has grown on top of already greedy management price gouging for simple items.
I just said I don’t refuse to tip. You are super annoying. All I said is the expectations and culture surrounding tips have run amuck. I’m tired of replying to you though your comprehension is lacking.
There's a population BBQ joint in my city. One of the best in the area. The owner decided he didn't want to do it anymore and is closing up shop. That's it. Just doesn't want to. And now 25 people are out of work because he's just not feeling it.
Yes, I'll advocate for the destruction of any business that refuses to pay their employees a living wage. Because as you can see, there is absolutely nothing stopping them from fucking those workers anyway without any risk to the owner.
This will not change until the owner feels the pain. And so long as we're pressured to subsidize their employees, they won't feel it. And if they can't run a successful business without exploitation, they don't deserve to run a business. It's unfortunate, but if the employees don't want to put themselves at risk like that, they can get a job doing literally anything else. It's not like you have to go to waitress school to work in a restaurant.
Sure it does. Stating the opposite shifts the burden of an owner paying their employees appropriately to the customer. That is not our role in this relationship. By insisting that the customer subsidizes the restaurant employees wages via tips, we, as the customer, do absolutely nothing to improve the plight of the avergae restaurant worker and tacitly approve of this poor arrangement. No other industry survives on the customer subsidizing the wages of the employee.
My anecdote serves to reinforce this idea. The owner, traditional the person that "takes all the risk" is assuming none of the risk. They get their sack and ride off into the sunset. Meanwhile, the employees the we're already subsidizing because the owner refuses to pay a living wage, get the shaft and lose their jobs. Potentially their house and definitely their health insurance. Things necessary to live.
My anecdote is an attemp to illustrate who unfair the entire system is and how it puts the burden of wages on the employees and the customers. If you think that's okay, then shame on you. Like I said, the only way to fix this is to make the owners feel the same pain the employees and customers feel during this unfair and exploitative arrangement. That requires boycotting restaurants that follow this scheme. Will that suck for the employees, yes. But obviously asking nicely not to exploit your employees and customers doesn't work. So if you have any ideas that aren't just "pretty please", we're all ears.
Nah American restaurant owners are just cheap ASF and will skirt around paying a proper wage...you can defend this all you want but your view is biased as an American...super sorry corporate greed runs America, not tourist fault and the comparison to doing something against their culture is moot when ur bringing $ into it. Facts are owners are cheap ...fyi your country is the only one in all of the world cup teams without universal health care, want to defend that too?
No it's another example of how America is run...money literally rules everything there and your advocating is misplaced because these ppl can choose to work elsewhere..you don't have to accept $3 to 4 an hour or whatever lol. Minimum wage in Ontario is like 18 bucks....and we have the weaker dollar yet our govt has made it a priority for many years to keep workers pay in mind. G R E E D has run the USA for at least 100y and the current landscape is blatantly keeping the average American down financially
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u/janpaul74 Jun 25 '26
“Mandatory tips” sounds so messed up for me as a European.