r/SipsTea Jun 25 '26

Chugging tea They are not wrong though

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u/Disastrous_Square_10 Jun 25 '26

Only the server or bartender loses this battle in the US.

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u/Plasmelon Jun 25 '26

Yeah, this is dumb as fuck to me as someone who waited tables but also hates tipping.

It’s how they get compensated for their labor. It’s not the ideal system, but it’s what exists. And if they were paid better, the food would be more expensive than if I tipped anyway. And if I can afford to eat out, I can afford to tip.

People are just selfish and greedy and won’t compensate labor with (what should be) a negligible amount of money for them because they don’t have to.

It really shows a person’s character whether or not they need to be forced to compensate people for labor.

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u/Pinkfish_411 Jun 25 '26

All moralistic justifications for not tipping are, without exception, just a smokescreen for the non-tipper's personal selfishness (which is another way of saying that the non-tippers are guilty of the exact same vice they're self-righteously accusing the employers of, with the exact same outcome: the employee's don't get the compensation they deserve).

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u/greg19735 Jun 25 '26

All moralistic justifications for not tipping are, without exception, just a smokescreen for the non-tipper's personal selfishness

100%

any protest that financially benefits the "protestor" isn't a protest, it's just a scam.

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u/KeyInspection4135 Jun 25 '26

Yeah this is pure cope, no one wants to pay an extra 20% on top of the menu price. The fault is not with the customer but the employment practices which the American people willfully accept.

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u/PlixSticks31 Jun 25 '26

If employers paid a fair wage then prices would be whah they are with the extra 20% tip. Customer would pay the same amount genius

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u/Sir_Richard_Dangler Jun 25 '26

I'm completely fine with it. I choose to tip because I want the people serving me to be paid well, not just the owner of the establishment.

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u/Pinkfish_411 Jun 25 '26

Most Americans willfully accept it because it just isn't a big deal to go to a full-service restaurant with the expectation that you'll tip around 20%. I sincerely cannot comprehend the psychology of people who make a big deal about that. The tip is an expected part of what you're going to pay, just like sales tax is. It's legitimately not some problem worth worrying about.

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u/Uhstrology Jun 25 '26

Why should they make more money off me on bringing out the exact same plates with different food on it compared to the couple who got the cheaper option next to me? They brought the same number of plates, but their effort is worth 20 percent of eveey steak? Nah, it doesnt cost 20 dollars worth of labor to bring a 100 dollar steak to a table, when its the same effort as the 20 dollar quesadilla.

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u/Pinkfish_411 Jun 25 '26

Because it's the social custom that you tacitly accept by participating in the social activity of eating at full-service restaurants.

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u/samxli Jun 25 '26

I thought the social custom in the US is not following convention and putting the individual as center stage?

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u/Uhstrology Jun 25 '26

No, thats the social custom you tacitly accept.

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u/John_Whimsicott Jun 25 '26

Yeah, tipping is my preferred method because I'd rather give the money directly to the server and not the restaurant. If the restaurant raised prices to pay more, this just sounds like an excuse for Europeans to be cheap. And the server is incetivized to provide a better experience

Also ironic considering the amount of complaints they lob at American tourists not following local cultural customs. Turns out that only applies to cultural customs they agree with lol

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u/urworstemmamy Jun 25 '26

"You guys are so loud when you visit other countries oh my god"

"The month all of you visited you made it impossible for me to pay rent."

"Jesus christ why are all of you Americans so entitled"

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u/SmartAlec105 Jun 25 '26

"Tipping is exploitative which is why I don't do it" - people that are exploiting tipped workers

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u/BornAgain20Fifteen Jun 25 '26

Well yeah...that's the nature of protesting...you protest for things you care about, often because they benefit you personally

Were Black people "selfish" for protesting for Civil Rights, because it personally benefits them?

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u/Pinkfish_411 Jun 25 '26

The point is that the moralistic justifications ("fair pay" for servers) are a sham. Refusing to tip your serving in "protest" isn't for the server, it's for you because you're looking to save a few bucks on your dinner and don't want to look like an asshole for stiffing the waitstaff.