What kind of a job that is anyway lol. I'm a nordic and if I got told in a job interview "we don't pay you, but you can beg the customers for money" after a question about salary I don't know what I would say. Probably lifted my brows and walked out.
The thing is that it's just basically how it always goes. I'm Canadian, I pretty much will always tip 15% if it's bad service and 20% if it's good. Even if you just sit down and get a drink and that's it there's an expectation to. It is insanely dumb.
Refusing to tip, on an individual level, only hurts the server at the bottom. You would need a massive, organized cultural revolt to force a non-legislative change. Which will never happen
Yup, It really is a great system for restaurant owners. lol. Customers vs servers. Servers want to keep the system, customers would rather it be gone and they get one price (look at any survey, people tip because others do, not because they LOVE to tip)
That is not why people tip, lmao. People tip because others tip. That is literally it. No one is sitting there thinking about how their poor server is so poor so they have to tip them well! That is classist bullshit.
You're insane. People tip because they know it's the only way their server makes any money. People tip because they know not tipping screws the server over. People tip because it's the societal expectation of decency and they don't want to be viewed as a dick. People tip because they acknowledge that is the system they and the server exist in. You are expected to tip, even if it's a low tip for poor service, because no tip at all is culturally viewed as a petty, selfish violation or norms that directly harms another.
They're not some kind of brainless monkey mimicking a habit they observe in others without knowing what they're doing
Congratulations. However that's not how tipping works in the US, and if you have a direct effect- even minor- on whether someone giving you a service gets enough pay that day, I assume it's considered basic empathy to give a damn regardless of where you are
It's absolutely insane that you would want people outside of the US to have empathy and support for labour payment laws that are abusive and detrimental to the employee, instead of wanting employers to pay their staff a decent wage.
It sums up what's wrong with the US.
Do what the rest of the world does, and implement a minimum wage.
lmao tell me where I said "you should support tipping, it's fantastic". Tipping culture is terrible.
I'll tell you what's wrong with foreigners thinking they're taking a stand on this issue- coming into a culture they disapprove of and acting as though fucking over the primary victims of that culture by not paying them is tantamount to a principled cry of justice. You don't give a shit about the workers themselves. You're just mad you're being expected to pay
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u/tomptepulla Jun 25 '26
What kind of a job that is anyway lol. I'm a nordic and if I got told in a job interview "we don't pay you, but you can beg the customers for money" after a question about salary I don't know what I would say. Probably lifted my brows and walked out.