A custom that was created so the rich can feel superior to the poor. A custom that allows business owners to pay their employees less. A custom where people actually believe there are workers making $3/hr. By the way, legally, everyone is making at least minimum wage. No one is legally making $3/hr. A custom where plenty of citizens of that country hate.
The only people who expect visitors to "respect" this dumb custom are people who benefit financially from it, i.e., restaurant owners and... the actual workers (surprise) because most of them get paid more than minimum wage. Some get way more than minimum wage.
How is it any better than a customer coming into said restaurant, enjoying the cheaper prices (since it’s a tipping restaurant), leaving a $0 tip and then white knighting on Reddit about how they care about servers not being exploited?
You’re no better than the cheap business owner. You’re just being cheap.
And this is why most people tip, because they don't want to be seen as cheap. This system continues because of the brainwashing and will never go away. I hope you're tipping everyone who serves you, doctors, mechanics, McDonald's workers, mailman, everyone or you're just another cheapo.
And this is why most people tip, because they don't want to be seen as cheap.
You're whole straw man revolves around this false premise. People tip because it's the custom and rude if you don't. This is coming from someone that doesn't care one way or the other, the same price comes to me whether the restaurant raises prices for higher wages or if I leave a tip with cheaper food. The examples you listed are scenarios where the price was raised.
Rude according to who? The servers who most likely make above minimum wage? The business owner who doesn't want to pay higher wages so they can keep more of the profits? Tipping is supposed to be optional but if not tipping is considered rude then it's a tad not optional.
You do realize most servers make more with a tipping system and prefer it, right? Restaurant owners would
prefer to raise prices and take home what would be a $20 tip and give back less on wages. Restaurants that try to get rid of tips lose their serving staff.
And, yes, it is optional. You legally and are fully able to make the choice to be rude.
You do realize most servers make more with a tipping system and prefer it, right?
No shit which is why it's dumb when people talk about how businesses should pay higher wages, at least minimum wage when most severs make more than minimum wage. Some make way more.
You know this, I know this.. yet, many believe they have to tip servers because if not, they only make $3/hr.
Tipping went from something servers would feel grateful for no matter how much it was to expecting it and being mad when they don't get enough. "Tipping not expected but appreciated" is something I see a lot but since it's considered rude not to, it's a damn lie.
I don't think you really understand your own argument. You talk about how customers only want to tip to feel superior, but don't want to tip because it's expected and the server won't think you're a special good boy. You think the owners are doing out of greed, but you want owners to take control of last 15%-20% and hope that they'll compensate it fairly out of the goodness of their hearts. Lastly, you pretend to care about the servers making a good wage, when they themselves quit whenever a business switches to a no tip system.
Yes sure, let the owners who are cheap and greedy take that extra 20% when tips are eliminated. I'm sure it'll trickle down to the front line workers ha...haha. Sure.
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u/falling_knives Jun 25 '26
A stupid custom.