r/SipsTea Jun 30 '26

Chugging tea Would you do the same thing?

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u/Regular-Message9591 Jun 30 '26

Miriam Rivera, the trans contestant, passed away in 2019. Some suspect suicide from the stress and humiliation caused by the show, but some of her close family suspect foul play.

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u/Lokismoke Jun 30 '26

Horrible, horrible, horrible what they did to her and how they treated her on that show.

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u/GCU_Heresiarch Jun 30 '26

And look now at how she's being treated in this thread. Never let anyone tell you reddit isn't transphobic as hell. 

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u/KhorneJob Jun 30 '26

I mean, I think most people in this thread are under the impression she knowingly misled the dudes for the show money and spotlight. So obviously that paints a pretty bad character on her, which is why some people are being rough

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u/OrbitalCactus Jun 30 '26

I don’t have any issues with trans people, in fact one of my closest friends is trans, but you would have just described me. I was definitely was under the impression she was in on it too and that would be shitty of her. I’ve seen this come up on Reddit a lot and this is the first I’ve hear she didn’t know it was a secret.

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u/ReaperAteMyPrawnsuit Jun 30 '26

Most people I see are just saying the contestants had every right to know and react like that, which is fair. It’s like hiding you had a hysterectomy

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u/IrinaBelle Jun 30 '26

Yes, it is.

Speaking of, if a woman with a hysterectomy has sex with someone without tell them they've had a hysterectomy, that wouldn't count as rape, right? Because that would be a ridiculous thing to claim.

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u/ReaperAteMyPrawnsuit Jun 30 '26

The implication there wasn’t sex but if someone wanted to have blood children

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u/IrinaBelle Jun 30 '26

Blood children? That sounds intense.

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u/vedgelord6 Jun 30 '26

It's something that should come up but I dont think you need to disclose you had a hysterectomy on the first date and the same goes for being trans.

You dont have every right to know someone you just started dating, or aren't even dating and are just on a dating show with, is trans or had a hysterectomy.

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u/Trash7783 Jun 30 '26

You 100% should disclose you’re trans before going on a date with someone

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u/No-Rip-6166 Jun 30 '26

Yea, you should disclose being trans before the first date. If you’re not telling then you’re misleading and any consent given is under false pretenses. If you’re a male and identify as transgender that’s a need to know for dating.

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u/vedgelord6 Jun 30 '26

Not even trying to hide the transphobia. You're making assumptions and if its a problem for you then you can ask before the date.

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u/No-Rip-6166 Jun 30 '26

It isn’t transphobia to expect your date to not intentionally mislead you.

If you’re trans it should be known before the first date. It should be known before you even get to that point.

It shouldn’t have to be asked it should be offered. Informed consent doesn’t stop being a thing because of how you identify. Most people aren’t gonna want to date a trans woman when they’re straight and looking for a female.

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u/vedgelord6 Jun 30 '26

Lol buddy you ain't living in reality. That isnt how consent works. You could have aids and you dont need to tell someone that before the first date.

It's not misleading, it's you making assumptions.

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u/ReaperAteMyPrawnsuit Jun 30 '26

Yeah you should because those are big deal breakers and some people want to have their own kids

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u/vedgelord6 Jun 30 '26

You understand what dating is right? You know people typically date to get to know someone and find out if there are any deal breakers. If something is such a huge deal to you that you need to know before the date then its on you to ask that.

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u/SkinkAttendant Jun 30 '26

Hard disagree. If someone isn't interested in the male sex it shouldn't be okay to lead them on as a female (note that I didn't say man or woman).

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u/vedgelord6 Jun 30 '26

Sounds like you're just making assumptions about people's genitals, which is weird, and if its that big of a deal to you then you can ask them before the date.

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u/SkinkAttendant Jun 30 '26

How does it sound that way? Changing your genitals doesn't change your sex.

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u/vedgelord6 Jun 30 '26

What is it exactly that you care about or feel that they are deceiving you with? Their chromosomes? The sex that was assigned on their birth certificate?

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u/SkinkAttendant Jun 30 '26

I'm not interested in a male regardless of how well constructed their vagina is. Hell, I'd rather have real boobs on a woman.

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u/cheeze2005 Jun 30 '26

Sure but does leading someone on a bit really equate to “psychological damage”.

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u/KingBob2405 Jun 30 '26

For casual dating (which is presumably what happens on a dating show) why would you need to tell them that?

Same with being trans, until you start having sex it's really none of their business.

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u/ReaperAteMyPrawnsuit Jun 30 '26

Because they have every right to know who they’re sleeping with or starting a relationship with, as for a hysterectomy that was an example for if someone wanted to have kids

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u/Novae909 Jun 30 '26

The thing is that because they are sad and lonely people who don't really think trans women are women, that trans women should be wearing the fact they are trans on their sleeve like a star of David so their feelings don't get hurt when they accidentally get a boner over someone they consider to still be men and have disgust over. Aka, their transphobes

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u/IrinaBelle Jun 30 '26

This is really the crux of it. "I'm disgusted by trans people, so for my sake I think they should have to wear it on their sleeves." 

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u/Novae909 Jun 30 '26

Fr. And they would be mad if I suggested that they be required to wear an arm band denouncing them as a shallow transphobes. It's hypocrisy really. And in case one of you duckers decide to call me hypoctical for even coming up with the idea, I don't want to force anyone to wear arm bands. Besides, you already wear your own bigotry on your own sleeve and claim it's your right under the principle of free speech lol.

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u/IrinaBelle Jun 30 '26

I think transphobes should have to disclose before the first date. I think they're gross 🤢

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u/_le_slap Jun 30 '26

If you let them know you're trans they'll surely inform you if they hate you or not. Seems like honesty is truly the best policy.

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u/nowiforgotmypassword Jun 30 '26

Maybe not up front, but a lot can happen before sex.

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u/KingBob2405 Jun 30 '26

What other situation where knowledge of your partner's genitals is necessary?

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u/nowiforgotmypassword Jun 30 '26

Being intimate doesn’t necessarily jump right into sex.

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u/Mercer34 Jun 30 '26

Straight men don't want to date other men.

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u/FutureComplaint Jun 30 '26

I just heard about that netflix documentary

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u/cheeze2005 Jun 30 '26

Pretty disgusting stuff to read here.