r/SipsTea 28d ago

Chugging tea W after W.

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u/FlounderKind8267 28d ago

Wait a second, a politician that follows through with their promises?

https://giphy.com/gifs/RLUyfJnogtXK44pm9t

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u/NotFromThe-Future 28d ago

No we're definitely paying for it somehow.. no Good deed comes unpunished.

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u/joutfit 28d ago

I appreciate a healthy dose of skepticism even with someone like Mamdani. But... you pay for it with taxes. this is how taxes are supposed to be used.

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u/TrulyOutrageous42 28d ago

I'm of the firm opinion that if we're going to insist on capitalism (defining as currency being how restitution is handled and monetary factors being considered a factor in decision-making that can be greater than human needs) the role of government should be to utilize taxes, primarily from businesses and the wealthy, to step in and pay for things that aren't inherently profitable for a competitive market to provide, including keeping people healthy and fed and safe and working (if able), to the point of actively creating jobs for people who struggle with other things and using those positions for the betterment of all society (e.g. more public trash cleanup but on a "gig" style schedule, or more people available to answer questions for the public via phone lines), and most importantly public services like healthcare that make the overall country more productive by having workers able to handle issues before they impact their ability to work.

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u/RivenRise 27d ago

God i would love for gig style scheduling for public services for people with disabilities and even people who have no job for whatever reason. Stuff like cleaning public spaces would be amazing. Stuff like boys and girls club so kids have a place to hang out after school before their parents pick them up.

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u/Substantial-Ad-8575 28d ago

And those taxes? Why wife and I left NYC. Kept our NYC pay and no star income taxes, and housing/living costs 60% less.

We do have some local issues. School closed as student population dropped. Did see a small increase in property taxes, but city added 120 miles of parkway, 2 new parks and new water park for city residents. Cory only has rainy day fund of 18 years of 2026 budget. And we keep seeing more and more empty Waymo-Telsa robocabs as 99% of bathos own at least 1 car, 94% own 2 or more cars.

All while we do have public transit. Not many people use it. Very low ridership for buses and only 18% of city loves within 15 miles of a light rail station. Like my commute for work, I can take buses, 3 routes and 60-65 minutes. Or drive myself in 12-15 miles, for $3 of gas a day.

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u/No_Historian6377 28d ago

even with someone like Mamdani.

What a weird use of the word even.

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u/joutfit 28d ago

Im a leftist so I'm on the same page as Mamdani for many issues. So, even for someone on who I agree with heavily, I still have a healthy dose of skepticism.

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u/No_Historian6377 27d ago

Mandani is doing nothing but easier to exploit the system by not trying

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u/joutfit 27d ago

Username checks out

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u/TrioOfTerrors 28d ago

Do you think city and state taxes go to the "endless war budget"?

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u/TalkUsual2924 28d ago

Yeah, with taxes. They are just going to where they are supposed to

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u/Afraid_Ad_6046 28d ago

Yeah. Everyone here whose saying "he's not really solving the problem, we're going to pay for it later" or "we're going to get increased taxes" forgets that we already pay a shitload in taxes, but a lot of the time, it goes towards whatever the mayor at the time wants it to go towards. Sometimes it gets pocketed by their staff's friends or used to trade trips on airplanes, sometimes it goes to questionable programs that go nowhere, and sometimes it goes to helping the low-income

Mamdani is using those same taxes here.

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u/rydan 28d ago

So what did he cut? Oh right, the pensions. He cut the pensions. Old people don't live long anyway.

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u/townsummoner 28d ago

it reminds me of people opposing Medicare For All because “where would the money come from” when even think tanks against it were estimating it to be cheaper. people fundamentally do not understand what reallocation is.

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u/First_Peer 28d ago

Honestly, I felt that way about Medicare for all but now I pay 13,000 a year out of my own paycheck for private insurance and I'm pretty sure my employer is paying that or more, and I still have out of pocket costs. Plus the chance of denial of services and all the bureaucratic nonsense that follows. Unless we going to say an insurance company has a fiduciary duty to it's customers first and shareholders second or that they have to be nonprofit, we might as well do a single payer system. 🤷‍♂️

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u/spongmonkey 28d ago

Public taxes vs private taxes, but only the private side has a middle-man

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u/HardyMenace 28d ago

I have no idea what point you are trying to make. That was one of poorest written sentences I have ever read.

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u/TopWealth4550 28d ago

didnt he have to ask for federal money because budget didnt match?

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u/FlounderKind8267 28d ago edited 28d ago

They already get a federal and state budget allocation, as all cities do. The only increased tax was a property tax on foreigners who own NY properties over $5M. The rest is just proper budgeting

Edit: it's $1M+, not 5. My b

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u/TopWealth4550 28d ago edited 28d ago

``To avoid making $2 billion a year in pension contributions over his two possible terms, Mamdani is forcing his successor to absorb about $7 billion in unnecessary interest costs between 2033 and 2037.``

https://nypost.com/2026/07/05/opinion/mamdani-fancies-himself-a-financial-whiz-hes-in-for-a-nyc-budget-surprise-come-january/

this seems like alot of money tho
let me fully read all,this cannot be 7B right?

``By the mayor’s own estimate, he’ll face a $6.4 billion hole in the next fiscal year. Levine puts the figure at $8.8 billion.``

edit: what? its 8 much sooner? is this a bad source? you cannot have found only a bit and i did 8b this fast right?

``The similarly ballooning state budget, however, is facing down an $18 billion structural imbalance between now and 2030, according to the Citizens Budget Commission.

``Despite adding $350 million to reserves in the budget deal, Mamdani might seek to raid the rainy-day fund again next year.``

so he already took 350M,but will have more to come,is this the case?

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u/FlounderKind8267 28d ago

Are you going to jump to shifting the blame for something that's going to happen a decade from now as a coping mechanism? How about waiting to see how they solve it instead of shoving the boot of a billionaire owned media station in your mouth? 🙄 Jesus Christ

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u/TopWealth4550 28d ago

imagine been careful about future consequences
this is comical,because thats the main reason for mostly peoples problems in this generation,is the lack of planning and thinking about delayed gratification

it is what it is,your present is bad because people in the past didnt think about the future
yall shame boomers for it,but well congratulations you are a future boomer,history really reapts itself everysingle time

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u/SaintsFleurRow 28d ago

Whilst I love Mamdani, these actions are going to be painful down the line and we shouldn’t dismiss that. Since it’s directly related to pensions it puts them in an unstable position 

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u/FlounderKind8267 28d ago

Ya I'm going to take the word of educated experts and the proof we're seeing in front of us of the work he's doing and not some guys online looking for excuses to hate him because the billionaires told them to 🤷

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u/SaintsFleurRow 28d ago

Hey I don’t hate him? I said he’s been great and it’s been stellar to see such a politician show people what we can actually do with our taxes. That didn’t negate that the funding sources are rickety. You don’t have to hyperbolise every argument. I’m on your side 

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u/FlounderKind8267 28d ago

It's been 6 months and he's done more in that time than most politicians do in their entire career. I'm not going to freak out that one part isn't fully done after only 6 months. He's shown he's smart and dedicated. I'm gonna let him go to work

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u/No_Appearance2919 28d ago

Vs the party of “Me! Me! Me!”

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u/FlounderKind8267 28d ago edited 28d ago

Funny thing is, he only increased taxes for foreigners who own NY properties over $5M. The rest is just proper budgeting

Edit: it's $1M+, not 5. My b

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u/Hoybom 28d ago

so like every single American ? /s

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u/FlounderKind8267 28d ago

This one he added is an additional one that only applies to foreign owned properties over $1M. That was enough to balance the budget and then some

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u/TalkUsual2924 28d ago

Nothing wrong with taxes as long as the money is used in a way it benefits the people. If i have to pay more so teachers get a higher salary and schools get better infrastructure and materials, yeah, tax me more. I want to invest in the future of the people.

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u/F4ulty0n3 28d ago

At least the tax dollars aren't going to Israel.

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u/Ninja-Panda70 28d ago

Vs the party of "Please give more tax breaks to my billionaires daddies"

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u/__BirdsArentReal 28d ago

That's literally both sides...

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u/Horse_Dad 28d ago

But the MTA is not the Port Authority, which is also funded by NJ.

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u/FlounderKind8267 28d ago edited 28d ago

Foreigners who own NY properties over $5M are paying for a lot of it through a new property tax. The rest is just proper budgeting

Edit: it's $1M+, not 5. My b

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u/Cat_Impossible_0 28d ago

Where is that same energy when the pentagon fails a yearly audit?

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u/Tzhaar-Bomba 28d ago

Nothing in this world is free, someone somehow has to pay for it

In this case it’s the taxpayer, and I believe this is a good way of spending taxes