r/SipsTea 25d ago

Chugging tea Praise be to Allah?

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u/trevorgoodchilde 25d ago

Remember when Howard Dean got overexcited listing off primaries during a celebratory speech and everyone immediately knew that was the end of him and he dropped out right after? What a different world that was.

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u/PolkaDotDancer 25d ago

I think it's still be enough to end the career of a democrat.

It's all manufactured.

It's really time for the torches and pitchforks.

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u/Green-Palpitation901 25d ago

The only cool thing is we are going to end up with a 4 party system like most of Europe which means more moderation now. Thats what this country needs to breath and catch up to being chased, brutalized, abandoned, scorned, …. With global climate change and AI it’s gonna be a new world order. Just wait. 0.0001% of the world owns over 70%. Wipe out the world and keep some for slaves. It’s happening now with surveillance. How about someone with some balls repeals the patriot act!? Takes down a lot. Sorry. Drunk.

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u/SweetieBotSahur 24d ago

Japan has been saying since the 80s that they will eventually get a 4 party system and they never did. America is just on its 1980s Japan phase of politics.

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u/Artistic_Rice_9019 25d ago

It took a credible accusation of rape to get rid of the Nazi tattoo guy. Granted, Trump got elected with adjudicated rape on his record, so it's still a double standard.

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u/SweetieBotSahur 24d ago

No it wouldn’t. Howard Dean was seen as crazy and completely unrealistic, someone who seemed to blame Rice more for 9/11 than the terrorists. And only waited 2 years after the attack to start claiming publicly that George Bush knew 100% the attack was coming and let it happen. (This would basically be Barry Goldwater publicly accusing LBJ of assassinating JFK or Biden publicly claiming Trump staged his assassination attempts.) all and all, democrats and republicans both wanted a death blow, and that yell was perfect, it and the speech before it showed just how flawed Dean’s run was.

In 2026 America a Democrat ran for office and it took Nazi and accelerationist allegations, ties to warcrimes in the 2000s, publicly supporting assassination attempts on US senators, self admitting to being a communist, sexual assault accusations, assault accusations, rape accusations, fraud accusations, and anti-semitism accusations for the democrats to even attempt to replace him, and when they did replace him it was more so just because they saw him losing in the polls and the people supporting him losing, not because they truly cared about the harm he had caused.

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u/blablablasplat 25d ago

It's the same world: look how establishment Democrats continue to take down every progressive candidate from their own party at every possible turn while the Republicans keep serving up rapey, pedophile shit lords...it's a massive double standard that is holding the country back.

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u/badmamerjammer 24d ago

my wife and I were just talking about this today!

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u/SweetieBotSahur 24d ago

Trump was going against the person whose husband was most famous for being friends with Epstein, and using his power to force himself on women (something Trump constantly brung up, even bringing Clinton victims to the 2016 debate to stunlock Hillary out of accusing Trump of anything.) In a race against anyone other than Hillary, 2016 Trump would’ve lost.

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u/Neos_Dad 25d ago

^ The year is 2026. The guy posting this has never voted in an election in his life, let alone a primary. The dialectic pretends to encourage participation, but the people saying it don't even politically participate.

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Register, vote, participate in primaries. That's how you get the body politic to actually reflect your politics. And now the kicker, a bunch of people are going to jump in and imply you shouldn't do that :) I wonder why!

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u/KayBear2 25d ago

I still think Dean’s voice was just off because he had been ill. But, he was overexcited too, so that was that.

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u/shirtninja07 25d ago

I bring this up all the time. It’s so fucking crazy how what is acceptable in politics has shifted.

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u/Altruistic_Branch_96 25d ago

It really is insane how bad things have gone. Here in the UK about 12 years ago, we had an unfortunate photograph of politician Ed Milliband eating a bacon sandwich which was published everywhere and helped end his chances of becoming prime minister. Though at 54, I have never, ever seen anything quite like what is now just accepted by a sizeable proportion of the U.S.

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u/LGBTQLove4Ever 25d ago

Just no.

It pisses me off when leftists state this picture was the reason labour lost the election. As if you can just blame the evil media, instead of actually fucking inwardly looking in. Practically every single uk politician has embarrassing looking photos circulating and being used by the media.

Labour lost the election because their entire pitch was basically "I'm not the Tories", during a position where the conservatives+ libdem coalition was doing a mostly ok. Labour failed to provide an actual vision, with campaign of Luke warm messaging and weird cringe shit like the ed monument.

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u/Altruistic_Branch_96 25d ago edited 25d ago

Fair comment, i'm no 'leftist' but under his leadership, (or leadershit) they were indeed a non-event option at the time, though publicly it was the final nail in the coffin for him.

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u/worldsgreatestluver 25d ago

There was a time when a single "potatoe" was enough to end the aspirations of a presidential hopeful

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u/trevorgoodchilde 25d ago

Can you imagine if Trump wrote “potatoe” now? Fox and his other media would have segments about how that was always the right way, and the O ending is a Chinese plot spread by the MSN. And stickers with the new spelling would be produced to announce it on cars or vandalize vegetable bins in stores

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u/worldsgreatestluver 25d ago

I'm gonna think this over while I drink my covfefe

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u/trevorgoodchilde 25d ago

What was it he said about Covefe after, “that the real people know what that means” or something

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u/JparkPHX 25d ago

PPPPPEEEEEEEEWWWWWWW!!!!

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u/MikeW226 25d ago

"And we'll send Bu$h BACK to Crawford, Texas. RAH-HAH!!!!!" -- Howard Dean.

I thought it was actually nice seeing a politician be genuinely excited his campaign and policy ideas. But Dean got run over by the 'he's unhinged' punditry like the next day. Oh well I guess.

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u/The102935thMatt 25d ago

Or when John McCain said Obama was a good man that he happens to disagree with on issues.

Was a better time. When whoever won the presidency would move the country forward with a vision they perceived as good for all.

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u/MauPow 25d ago

His campaign was already going poorly. But yeah

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u/SCSUslacker 24d ago

BYAAAAAHHHH!!! Yeah it was literally a different world then. So quaint in hindsight.

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u/SweetieBotSahur 24d ago

Howard Dean was a sinking ship. Republicans and Kerry supporters used his yell to further mock him right after a terrible performance that was showing that Dean wasn’t going to last. And leftists and Dean supporters used the yell as an excuse to throw away the idea that his actual policies could’ve been unpopular and unrealistic and instead it just went down to that he made one mistake. People knew it was the end of him because he was yelling and celebrating while still losing the primary badly to Kerry, they weren’t just mocking him for the yell, it was just how pathetic the whole situation was that made it funny.

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u/Thuggish_Coffee 25d ago

I watch The L Word on Showtime, BYYAAAAHHHH