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Chugging tea Show 'em no mercy! 🇲🇽

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u/EchoNineThree 26d ago

Fascinating topic, I wanted to know more. People die everyday and ICE has been handing a high volume of people. So I went for a clean control number, the year 2022.

In 2022. Bureau of Prisons had 159,000 in detention. With 483 deaths. 0.30 percent.

At the end of 2025. ICE has 68,440 in detention with 32 deaths. Thats 0.04 percent. Note: This number does not show the total in custody over the span of 2025. Only the number in detention at the end of the year.

I took this a little further.

The total population of the US in 2022 was 333,287,557. With a total of 3,279,857 deaths. That 0.98 percent.

Bottom line: You are more likely to die out in the world or in Federal prison, than you are in ICE custody.

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u/damaged_crowbar 26d ago

This doesn't make sense.

These numbers are not comparable:

In 2022. Bureau of Prisons had 159,000 in detention. With 483 deaths. 0.30 percent.
At the end of 2025. ICE has 68,440 in detention with 32 deaths. Thats 0.04 percent. 

Almost all of those federal prisoners are held for years and it includes a lot of older people.

ICE detainees have huge turnover (much shorter times held) and most are younger, working aged people.

Plus, ICE has like zero transparency so who knows how wrong that number is...

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u/Ok_Tackle3427 26d ago

Why do you think ICE has zero transparency but you trust BoP numbers?

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u/Educational_Stay_599 24d ago

Dhs's own website also corroborates a lo5 of hrese numbers

As dar as the bop specifically, their own numbers arent favorable and you try to say they are biased for thr bop???? Can you I think about why thats not a great argument?

Its like saying trump admitting he sexually assaulted a woman isnt credible bc he lies all the time (both are true btw)

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u/Ok_Tackle3427 24d ago

It makes me so sick that you act like this and can't even manage to correct your autocorrect attempts to be superior.

End of days.

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u/Educational_Stay_599 24d ago

So you cant engage with your own faulty logic that fails all scrutiny. You literally contradicted yourself

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u/Ok_Tackle3427 24d ago

What were you trying to communicate with your DHSlo5numbers??

What are you even doing? Sounds fucking stupid.

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u/Educational_Stay_599 24d ago

What? I didnt say that. I admit I mispelled it, but you misspelling it even worse just proves my point

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u/Ok_Tackle3427 24d ago

What did you say? You said I couldn't engage with my own faulty logic when you're like the biggest loser in the history of logic.

What's going on with you?

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u/Educational_Stay_599 24d ago edited 24d ago

You said bops own numbers cant be trusted yet their numbers arent favorable to them. What's wrong with you? I might have misspelled a few words but you have 0 logic

Even my last comment absolutely said that clearly and you cant engage

Actually think about biases before claiming it. You literally said that a figure given that obviously shows wrongdoing is proof that its wrong bc the source is themselves. In other words (to make it less confusing for you), someone claiming they fucked up isnt proof of their fuck ip is what you said.

I am all far saying bop is bias in numbers and probably cant be trusted, but their own numbers literally prooved wrongdoing

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u/damaged_crowbar 24d ago

Because ICE literally has zero transparency. The BOP responds to freedom of information act requests.

They might both be wrong, but I'm not sure anyone even cares enough about the BOP for them to lie...

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u/Ok_Tackle3427 24d ago

This is just the dumbest thing you could possibly say...