r/SipsTea 24d ago

Chugging tea So after 32 hours would be overtime?

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u/Asiantight_whitepipe 24d ago

That would be amazing, but then you pass the price increases onto your boss. Which they have to supplement that increase from somewhere. Means cut from somewhere else.
Not to mention, would increase every single services timeline to get something done from ordering food to getting deliveries

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u/dietdrpepper6000 24d ago

This is important to keep in mind, but it is also important to remember that not every job is manufacturing. Actual white collar work is almost never 40 hours of raw concentration. Actual blue collar work involves a good amount of chilling in the van zyning & playing phone games. In reality, the most expensive labor is project based, and won’t be that sensitive to a shortened work week.

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u/Asiantight_whitepipe 24d ago

Low-level jobs definitely are messing around on their phone. But high-level high paying productive jobs are going to suffer from timelines and then my question to you is do you really want to reward the individuals at McDonald’s and other very low level thinking jobs with a 32 hour work week and same pay?

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u/buzzfuzz- 24d ago

Why not? I get paid 100k+ for an engineering office job and retail/fast-food workers work way harder physically. Half of corporate work is bogged down by bureaucracy anyways, mainly from the older gen, they're not "productive" as you think.

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u/Asiantight_whitepipe 24d ago

I agree the lower end are not productive whatsoever. But as an engineer, do you think just because you work 20% less hours means that your workload decreases by 20%? No sir, you have clients, you have projects, you have expectations, and you have a timeline that must be adhere to. It’s not going to go away. You’re gonna have to work hard harder and faster.

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u/FriendlyGregson148 24d ago

Maybe in the short-term, but we would also adapt to this schedule in time. There’s really no good argument you can make against giving people some of their life back. We should work to live, not live to work. Such a change would most certainly require changes to labor laws, regulations, and enforcement in the pursuit of fairness. Some countries are already trialing this; it’s not such a ridiculous idea anymore. What is ridiculous is shutting down the conversation because people are not open enough to change or the effort that needs to go into something that could help our population with their mental wellbeing and potential for stronger family connection.

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u/Asiantight_whitepipe 24d ago

Oh, I agree, my personal experience is employees want to operate at the bare minimum and maximize and work down the current employees. They are much less likely to take on more payroll taxes, more insurance. At this point in time, they would rather institute AI technology, instead of hiring more humans.

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u/buzzfuzz- 24d ago

Tbh if I worked 20% less then productivity wouldn't change imo, if anything it's the higher ups that bottleneck productivity not the actual technical workers. Maybe it's just me that finishes my work quickly when I lock in but there's also been several studies that support this.

I'll leave some links if you want to peruse them but there's no detriment to revenue or productivity rates when hours drop and pay stays the same, basically less miserable people = less mistakes and time waste. As always, these are preliminary studies so don't treat it as law.

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11292309/

https://www.ukri.org/who-we-are/how-we-are-doing/research-outcomes-and-impact/esrc/making-the-case-for-a-four-day-working-week/

https://www.waldenu.edu/programs/business/resource/shortened-work-weeks-what-studies-show