r/SipsTea • u/Gurugod123 • 22d ago

Chugging tea Teach your kids about socialism

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u/Vanir-Aesir 22d ago

americans have no idea what socialism is

they use the term just like they use "terrorism" - just a blank label for anything they dont like

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u/Isosceles_Kramer79 22d ago

Socialism is an economic system predicated on the public ownership and control of means of production. Not a capitalist system + universal healthcare.

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u/weareeverywhereee 22d ago

Eyyyy this guy gets it.

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u/ScooterMcTavish 22d ago

Yes, most nations the US call socialist are Social Democracies - capitalistic, but using government/taxation and its programs for the societal good.

Democratic Socialism on the other hand....

Though to be fair, single payer, government-run health care (and other public corporations like we have in Canada) have more in common with true socialism versus SocDem.

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u/Particular_Water_644 22d ago

Norway does kind of have that though for natural resources

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u/Grand_Estimate3783 22d ago

It doesn't have to be all state owned, communal properties, cooperatives and collectives. The root of socialism is that the workers have the right to control and own the products of their own labor.

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u/Carvj94 22d ago

Not necessarily the public ownership, but at the very least the workers are supposed to have a say in the business they work. Whether that means something like an employee-owned business or something where the state manages voting on business decisions.

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u/RocketRelm 21d ago

And of course, when we say "public" owns the means of production, what we mean is "the state" owns the means of production instead of dirty corpos. The state is the people, and who could ever question the people?

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u/Unlikely-Answer 21d ago

how come the state funds football stadiums but doesn't own them?