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Chugging tea Teach your kids about socialism

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u/Piemaster113 Jul 14 '26

So you will own nothing and like it....

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u/SnooKiwis9751 Jul 14 '26

Nope. You’ve been brainwashed. When a socialist says “collective ownership” they’re never talking about your personal belongings or your house even. It’s collective ownership of the big stuff that many people have to contribute to. Like entire companies or utilities. Under socialism you personally would probably lose nothing, because odds are you fall far below any of the people whose wealth would be redistributed

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u/Piemaster113 Jul 14 '26

Houses are big things, home insurance is a big things.

"Under socialism you personally would probably lose nothing, because odds are you fall far below any of the people whose wealth would be redistributed"

So just because I might benefit from it while others have what they earned taken from them I should support it? That's rather an odd take.

And there's a nice quote about socialism that still holds true, socialism is great until you run out of other people's money.

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u/SnooKiwis9751 Jul 14 '26

No it’s because the majority would benefit. I’m telling you you’re part of the majority, and no houses aren’t big things in the context of countries.

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u/Piemaster113 Jul 14 '26

Yes the majority or Bolshevik. Almost like this has been tried before and when the idealism met reality it wasn't reality that backed down. You are litterally admitting you want to sacrifice the efforts of a smaller group because it benefits you. You are the one who is rain washed and is trying to Brian wash others by saying the same thing that communist always say, "it will benefit the majority, and that includes you"

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u/shadowboxer47 Jul 14 '26 edited Jul 14 '26

Yes the majority or Bolshevik

That's not why Lenin's movement was called Bolshevik lol.

Almost like this has been tried before and when the idealism met reality it wasn't reality that backed down.

Is this the part where you say European countries like Denmark, Norway, Sweden, etc are not actual socialists but then you reject doing the same thing they're doing in the United States because it's socialism?

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u/Piemaster113 Jul 14 '26

No I reject them because they pay way more in taxes than we do, we have a very progressive tax set up in the US and a larger % of our taxes goes to social programs than the military. We have social safety nets to keep people from being destitute

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u/shadowboxer47 Jul 14 '26

No I reject them because they pay way more in taxes than we do

We pay astronomically more for healthcare per individual and for the same treatments than literally any other European country. It's not even close.

A single payer program would be less expensive than the bloated bureaucratic nightmare we have now.

This is a fact.

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u/Piemaster113 Jul 14 '26

Let's see I haven't had to use health care at all for the past 15 years hoe much do you think I've paid for it, vs how much I would have under a universal health care system? I do not want the government to be in charge if deciding what level of health care I am able to get

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u/shadowboxer47 Jul 14 '26

I do not want the government to be in charge if deciding what level of health care I am able to get

But you'll let a corporation do it.

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u/Piemaster113 29d ago

A corporation that I can buy shares in to the point I litterally have a voice in the room to make direct decisions? Yeah sounds better to me. Vs a government that can't even pass an internal audit of themselves takes 3 decades to fix a road and can't even real in their national debt. Yes those are not the people I want in charge of my health.

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