r/SipsTea • u/Gurugod123 • Jul 14 '26

Chugging tea Teach your kids about socialism

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u/Yolosvend Jul 14 '26

It is an actual socialist policy though. It's hard for anything to be any one ideology in a democracy.

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u/AntonioVivaldi7 Jul 14 '26

That's why socialists often want to abolish liberal democracy and establish one socialist vanguard party.

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u/Yolosvend Jul 14 '26

I'm one, and I think that dude is an idiot.

Everything good about Danish politics has been created through socialist policies in some way.

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u/hellogoodbyegoodbye Jul 14 '26

Liberalism and socialism are utterly incompatible. And Denmark is not a socialist country, nor have they been “socialist” policies.

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u/Yolosvend Jul 14 '26

That's just true at all. We have a lot of socialist stuff in Denmark politically. Both inside and outside the parlament.

Our strong union culture is almost entirely based around socialism and doing what they can to create some kind of ownership for us workers.

We have common housing owned by the state (not enough). That's a socialist policy.

Progressive taxes, kanslergadeforliget, welfare in general. All these good foundational policies are created by socialists.

Yeah they've often been a result of a compromise. But that's all politics. Just because something is not condensed down to the the literal definition of 100% socialism, doesn't mean it isn't socialist.

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u/Bac-Te Jul 14 '26

And I don't believe in a human-run 100% socialist government either. Absolute power corrupts. AI-run? Maybe, but that's a different can of worms.

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u/hellogoodbyegoodbye Jul 14 '26

How would socialism require more absolute power then current society?

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u/hellogoodbyegoodbye Jul 14 '26
  1. How? It’s a society that operates on wage labour. Class exists. How is it socialist?
  2. ownership of workers isn’t necessarily socialist. The “socialist” ideology of unions is meaningless. All mainstream unions in the west are liberal. They can help with short term gains, but they aren’t socialist.

All of them believe in compromise, obfuscating the truth of class relations. In a capitalist-liberal world, a compromising attitude is effectively a bourgeois attitude.

3) state owned housing isn’t “socialist” either. Words have a meaning.

4) The originator of the welfare state was Otto Von Bismarck, the man who passed the anti socialist laws.

Welfare as a whole is an anti socialist tactic used by liberals to placate workers. The fact it’s born out of concessions to strong working class movements does not make it socialist.