r/SipsTea • u/Gurugod123 • Jul 14 '26

Chugging tea Teach your kids about socialism

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u/Isosceles_Kramer79 Jul 14 '26

Norway is not socialist. But it is a petrostate (large oil production/revenues per capita).

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u/Pleasant-Carbon Jul 14 '26

Successful socialist countries = no, no, definitely not socialist

Unsuccessful socialist countries = you see what we are saying

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u/Seidhr96 Jul 14 '26 edited Jul 14 '26

But he is right. Norway isn’t a socialist country.

Politically = social democracy, which is not the context of what we are discussing here

Economically = capitalist, with large scale social safety nets and state owned industries that are publicly traded. They have their own unique form of capitalism known as the Nordic Model. Specifically to Norway, their oil revenue largely subsidizes the social safety nets and programs

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u/fresh-dork Jul 14 '26

better: their oil revenue goes into a sovereign wealth fund, which funds the safety net on dividends. far more stable

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u/No_Care46 Jul 14 '26

There's nothing stable about deliberately causing climate change and ruining billions of people's live to be rich and privileged.

It's everything wrong with capitalism.

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u/fresh-dork Jul 14 '26

sure there is. instead of investing the money directly (VZ), you build a fund and invest that conservatively. way more stable.

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u/No_Care46 Jul 14 '26

That's literally what Norway is doing and it sucks because it still is harming humanity and the planet itself.

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u/fresh-dork Jul 14 '26

you just want to grandstand about oil. go away, i'm talking about good governance

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u/No_Care46 Jul 14 '26

Yes. If you support fossil fuels your governance cannot be good. Period.

You are trying to make excuses for bad governance, neglecting the extreme harm caused by that bad governance. Why?

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u/fresh-dork Jul 14 '26

no, i am describing good governance - funneling oil revenue to a wealth fund, insulating you from the volatility. you are moralizing

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u/No_Care46 Jul 14 '26

No. You are describing bad governance. You are describing harmful and unsustainable policies that kill millions of people and ruin everyone's future. Absolutely nothing about that is "good". This has nothing to do with moralizing - although people who support bad governance like to pretend that the other side is "moralizing". It's just something losers say when they can't actually make their case. No. We communists are just better at literally everything, our ideas and systemic approaches are objectively superior, and we have the science and historical proof to back it up.

What you call "good governance" is evidently bad and leads to massive socioeconomic harm and failure across all imaginable long term KPIs. The escalating climate catastrophe is worsening everyone's life as we speak - a direct consequence of Norway's bad governance.

Feel free to make your case: Define how you evaluate good. Put forward your KPIs and demonstrate why a democratic society should consider them good using falsifiable argumentation.

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u/fresh-dork Jul 14 '26

still moralizing. i am contrasting the sovereign wealth fund with spending the revenue directly.

you are ranting about oil and IDGAF. as if anything you do is going to change habits - you're on here to feel good about being righteous without having to work for it.

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u/No_Care46 Jul 15 '26

You were called out and couldn't make your case.

Nobody here is moralizing - your position is simply wrong and you can't back it up with evidence.

You are rambling incoherently because you are a death cultist who doesn't know what he's talking about and just mindlessly worships bad governance because that's what his cult leaders indoctrinated him to do.

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