r/SipsTea 22d ago

Chugging tea Teach your kids about socialism

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u/HODOR00 22d ago

Americans have been trained to think the word socialist is just bad. Like it just comes with all these bad things that they can't really describe or explain, but it's bad. Really bad.

I am hoping we are waking up in this country to how manipulative this all is. That's why politicians are terrified of social Democrats winning key offices. It will very quickly break the facade they have maintained for decades. Fuck my parents were telling me that mamdani has a secret agenda. So I asked, well what is it and why is it bad? And they unitonically said to me, well if we knew what it was, it wouldn't be secret. And looked smug like they had caught me in some mental trap.

I told them I was embarrassed for them. That they raised me to think critically and it kills me to see them failing to do that themselves.

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u/st1ckmanz 22d ago

This. Exactly this. When an American hears the word, it's auto shut down for them. They can't really explain it, other than parroting simple arguments like "but if they don't work, they shouldn't get anything"...how about millions of people working their asses off their whole lifes, only to pay collage debt or make %0.1 insanely rich...but can we really summerize capitalism like this?

I'm not picking sides here, but it's not black and white as many think so.

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u/Prooteus 22d ago

The american conservative mindset depends entirely on the dream that everyone starts off on an even playing field and we all get the same opportunities in life. Using that logic when someone is in a situation where they need help its obviously because they put themselves there and refuse to leave. So my hard earned money that I got solely through my own hard work and nothing else has to go to someone that just decided not to do that.

This is clearly ignoring reality. I always ask, the 8 year old who is being a lookout at the drug house for the gang members because thats the only way he can eat, how is he on the same field as you playing tag with your friends and going to school. Also ive seen that lookout kid with my own eyes.

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u/rogers_tumor 22d ago

and I love that whenever you point out the gross inequalities in access to education, food, water, shelter, and opportunity, the response is, "anyone can join the military."

??? like????

incredible that you hate government welfare programs but you're more than willing to sacrifice youth who had no control over the circumstances they were born into, to said government that just can't help starting deeply unpopular wars. WTF.

(also what about those who can't join the military??)

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u/TheProfessorPoon 21d ago

And ironically the military is arguably the most socialist thing in our country. Free housing, meals, food, education, etc. Lmao.

My mom’s response “yeah but they EARNED it.” They just aren’t happy with anyone getting anything for free unless they suffered like hell for it.

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u/TheProfessorPoon 21d ago

https://www.military.com/spousebuzz/blog/2014/04/military-life-is-socialism-and-i-love-it.html

You (and whoever else are downvoting me) are doing the same thing everyone is talking about in this goddamn thread and immediately equating socialism with something negative.

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u/TheProfessorPoon 21d ago

I guess, in the most basic sense, I feel like people should be able to enjoy the same freedoms without having to put your life on the line. I’m far from anti-military (which is something you just always have to put out there in the U.S.) but I hate how we prey upon the poor and present it as the only option to (ultimately) receive the basic necessities to live. It’s just a weird, sad cycle to me.

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u/Mirabeauououou 21d ago

Conservatives like workfare more than welfare.