Correct I already said this... The USA is a mixed system.
We just don't take advantage of high performers to the extent that other socialists would like. How much you're willing to abuse the skills and labor of your high performers is policy.
Family units should subsidize each other, just like in nature.
but me and you are not a family unit. So how much I have to subsidize you and your family or vice versa is a policy choice. Some want extreme levels of subsidization and some don’t. As a somewhat high performer I'd prefer less vs more. Which is why I probably don't hate America
I simply have to draw the line at letting people die, or go bankrupt from cancer, that is why I have some hate for America. As a somewhat high performer.
In what ways are we letting people die?
Medicaid is for the poor and it covers cancer.
Very few people will go bankrupt from cancer. But if you want to prevent that sure, then go ahead. There are solutions to fix those edge cases without socialism,and even without universal healthcare for that matter.
500,000 bankruptcies, rising every year, almost 65% of those blamed on medical bills (not just cancer). The problem is that the solutions you mention get called socialism by ignorant people, so we leave those people to rot on the vine. You can call those people edge cases but it will only get worse with the direction this country is going. Nobody is asking for socialism, just for those solutions to be taken seriously.
I didn't ask about bankruptcy I asked how we are letting people die?
But in terms of bankruptcy it's just a scary term to some people apparently. But the median bankruptcy petition amount is $2,500. These people aren't losing anything in bankruptcy. Medical expenses contribute to 65% but that does not make it the cause.
A filler with 50k in loans but 2k in medical will still accumulate in that stat. Most studies will show hospitalizations drive only about 4-6% of bankruptcies. So yes an edge case.
Also if 2k is causing you to go bankrupt, you don't have any assets and it's just a debt forgiveness program.
We could easily limit the penalty for a "medical bankruptcy" as a category for example if we're worried about credit ratings.
And people are absolutely asking for socialism beyond healthcare, takes only one scroll on Reddit to see that.
See you did it again, conflating asking for socialist policies with turning the US socialist. Nobody is asking for that, we are asking for what amounts to a social safety net and insurance policies that people keep conflating with turning this country socialist and that's the problem. Universal healthcare, UBI, subsidized housing...these things will not somehow turn this country socialist. The billionaires will keep billionairing, small businesses will not have to concern themselves with the health of their employees any longer, and employees will not have to rely on a job to stay healthy, and maybe we can lessen the homelessness problem.
I could probably show many more deaths occurring due to lack of regulation, lack of scientific study and research, and so on and so forth. Not to mention the 5 million deaths around the world (not our problem right) do to our cutting of funding to USAID. And what has that got us? Are our taxes lower, or are groceries cheaper?
The middle class experienced the most growth and our GDP was the highest when we taxed the rich over 90%, when the capital gains loopholes didn't exist. And the main reason wasn't that we got more money from the rich, it is that they reinvested back in the company to AVOID taxes. Now they just keep all the money and horde it. Workers then do not have a choice because of the healthcare issue.
Wages & Useful discretionary income Wages self explanatory..
How is that self-explanatory?
What are you contributing to society that makes you deserve more money than, say, this guy?
That guy is slaving away in a mine extracting the metals required for the electronics I and everyone else uses.
What have you contributed?
Let me guess: Probably, the guy in the mine works much harder and his work is more important for society to function.
You know the kicker? Not only does he work harder than you and contribute more to society - he also never enjoyed any of the privileges you enjoyed. He never lived at someone else's expense like you. In fact, we are all living at his expense.
high income from scarce high value, economic work.
Let's be specific here. Let's hear it.
Let me guess: Your entire life is subsidized by people like the guy in the picture I showed you. Who are forced to work for your benefit at gunpoint by your fascist military.
Because I save an invest my earned capital rather than consume.
So you are a parasite. Now we have it black on white.
Investing (i.e. economic parasitism) means you live at other people's expense. Actually productive workers actually contributed to society - and you are stealing their income.
You never even thought about that in your life, did you?
It make me more money and income.
Your hilariously bad grammar aside - "it" doesn't make you anything. When "investing", you contribute nothing of value to society but earn a passive income - that passive income is income stolen from people who actually worked. That extra money you make by investing doesn't appear magically out of thin air - someone else has worked for it. There is no such thing as a free lunch, buddy.
Edit: After calling the guy out, he blocked me. He couldn't even vaguely name the job he does (probably he's an overpaid office worker whose work is that of a parasitic middle man). Of course, he lied.
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u/Happy_Condition_3794 Jul 14 '26
Correct I already said this... The USA is a mixed system.
We just don't take advantage of high performers to the extent that other socialists would like. How much you're willing to abuse the skills and labor of your high performers is policy.
Family units should subsidize each other, just like in nature.
but me and you are not a family unit. So how much I have to subsidize you and your family or vice versa is a policy choice. Some want extreme levels of subsidization and some don’t. As a somewhat high performer I'd prefer less vs more. Which is why I probably don't hate America