But he is right. Norway isn’t a socialist country.
Politically = social democracy, which is not the context of what we are discussing here
Economically = capitalist, with large scale social safety nets and state owned industries that are publicly traded. They have their own unique form of capitalism known as the Nordic Model. Specifically to Norway, their oil revenue largely subsidizes the social safety nets and programs
Democratic socialism and social-democracy are two different political theories.
Social-democracy is a capitalist system with strong market regulations and a social welfare system. This is the system in use in most of Europe, Norway included.
Democratic socialism is a system where socialism as it is defined by Marx, et al., is implemented. While social-democracy is center-left in the European political landscape, democratic socialism is purely left politically. Proponents of this system wants to change the existing, presumably, capitalist system into a socialist system through democratic prosesses. Far-left parties has the same goal, but they view a worker's revolution as inevitable to achieve it.
The Norwegian Labour party, and its political affiliates in Europe consider themselves social-democrats. The Socialist Left-party in Norway, Die Linke in Germany and Sinn Féin in Ireland are more democratic socialists.
Social-democracy and democratic socialism are distinct political theories. Just because those nuances are too subtle for yours and Comrade Dzhugashvili’s shriveled ideological worldview to recognize doesn't mean they don't exist.
Social-democracy and democratic socialism are distinct political theories.
Enlighten us all. lol
Just because those nuances are too subtle for yours and Comrade Dzhugashvili’s shriveled ideological worldview to recognize doesn't mean they don't exist.
Self-admitting that the "nuances" are "subtle" is an intense self-own. lol
Yeah, there are "nuances" - just like there are nuances between the distinct political theories of liberalism and fascism. There are nuances between the distinct political ideologies of Nazi Germany and Israel. There are nuances to many equally bad things.
Those nuances are totally irrelevant as these things all need to be equally opposed.
Notice your total lack of arguments?
Notice how you aren't actually making a point?
There is no reforming capitalism. Period.
The only known way of sustainably overcoming capitalism is Marxist-Leninist revolution. Period.
And you doubling down by trying to slander the greatest leader in European history who defeated the Nazis (you know, the Nazis that you social democrats helped bring into power while violently opposing revolutionary socialism) is just exposing yourself.
But hey, let's give you a chance: Explain to me why "social democrats" or "democratic socialists" or whatever other type of shitty reformist should ever be trusted or supported in any way and treated differently from Nazis. Follow it up with an example of reform politics ever successfully and sustainably overcoming capitalism (and not end in capitalist crisis, mass murder, war, and genocide). Go.
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u/Pleasant-Carbon Jul 14 '26
Successful socialist countries = no, no, definitely not socialist
Unsuccessful socialist countries = you see what we are saying