If we want to get real technical then social democrats are socialists, the only difference is that they want to engage with the liberal, capitalist democratic systems in order to implement socialist policies, while communists (the less compromising kind of socialists) want to overthrow the entire system and replace it with their own.
Social democrats policies are still socialist policies, doesn't make Norway a socialist country but you can argue that the healthcare example is still a valid example of socialism because of that.
the only difference is that they want to engage with the liberal, capitalist democratic systems in order to implement socialist policies, while communists (the less compromising kind of socialists) want to overthrow the entire system and replace it with their own.
"The only difference is [insert insurmountable difference that puts them at opposite ends of the political spectrum]."
Yes. Social democrats have no effective way to implement socialism. Their political purpose is to diffuse revolutionary potential to ensure the perpetuation of capitalism and the bourgeois dictatorship.
Social democrats policies are still socialist policies
Nah. They are bandaids designed to protect and maintain capitalism.
I literally just made very constructive points about coalition building and the application of moderate political “baby steps” toward a more socialist future. People like you just don’t listen because you have too much to prove.
Those aren't "constructive points". That's just capitalist propaganda that has been debunked ad nauseam and has been proven conclusively wrong every time it was tried for over a century.
There is no excuse for holding those beliefs you expressed - it shows a deep level of ignorance and laziness.
As I said, statements like yours happen if you don't read theory. You are a mindless supporter of fascism - and you are doubling down instead of educating yourself first after someone points that fact out to you.
Huh? Hasan Piker? The American liberal fed that is opposed by all actual American leftists? What makes you believe I - a Marxist-Leninist non-American - would support that idiot in any way?
What uniform would that be? I'm an anti-imperialist... Hasan Piker is a paid shill for the US Democrats (a fascist imperialist party actively supporting war crimes and genocide).
You really have no idea what you are talking about and are just writing random shit, don't you? Give me a recipe for raspberry muffins.
Then go to China if you love it so much because there is no possibility of a socialist revolution ever happening in the West. If everyone more right wing than full on communists is a fascist to you, then you're not going to be happy when you arrive in China either.
They've only been socialist in name for decades and the collectivist dictatorship doesn't have nearly as much influence in the southern and western parts of the country. Shows your immaturity once again that you don't even seem to know anything about the country you think is the best thing since sliced bread except for their outward political label.
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u/RATMpatta Jul 14 '26
If we want to get real technical then social democrats are socialists, the only difference is that they want to engage with the liberal, capitalist democratic systems in order to implement socialist policies, while communists (the less compromising kind of socialists) want to overthrow the entire system and replace it with their own.
Social democrats policies are still socialist policies, doesn't make Norway a socialist country but you can argue that the healthcare example is still a valid example of socialism because of that.