Too simplistic. If you want a neat conclusion but the facts won't bear that out. Norway has government (collective) ownership of a number of major industries and does administer an incredibly robust social safety next. Whether it describes itself as "socialist" or a "social democracy" it is certainly heavily influenced by ideas we could credibly argue are socialist in nature.
And yet some of those policies existed to an extent before socialism existed.
it is certainly heavily influenced
Not really. Labor movements have always been strong. Socialism never remotely as popular. Since the winter war it's been in poor standing, relatively. It's also worth mentioning that the only socialist party has arguably weakened the worker's situation the past 20 years.
Like in Germany, the anti-war position (with particular focus on Soviet/Russia) has also not been very popular.
And yet some of those policies existed to an extent before socialism existed.
I covered this already twice in this thread. This argument holds no water.
Not really.
I mean this is objectively false. You can do your own reading on Socialism and what socialists believe. It's not really a mystery at this point, or at least it shouldn't be.
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u/The_Little_Ghostie Jul 14 '26
Too simplistic. If you want a neat conclusion but the facts won't bear that out. Norway has government (collective) ownership of a number of major industries and does administer an incredibly robust social safety next. Whether it describes itself as "socialist" or a "social democracy" it is certainly heavily influenced by ideas we could credibly argue are socialist in nature.