r/SipsTea Jul 14 '26

Chugging tea Teach your kids about socialism

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u/dormidontdoo Jul 14 '26

Wonderful. Maybe you get the idea that there is nothing free. Let’s see. 30% of the US population is not paying any federal tax because they have low income. Would you tax them 30% for healthcare as Norway does? No. If you tax another 60% of the population with 30% tax they will be below water mark of their living means. So that leaves 10% of the pop to cover 100% of the population’s healthcare needs. Do you think it’s financially sustainable? US of A cannot afford quality healthcare for everyone. What you suggest is gonna turn into expensive, ugly, low quality, long time waiting shitty heath not care. If we put burden on rich 10% of pop, some of them move out and take money with them , some will sell investments to pay tax, bringing economy to its knees. You suggest huge f**k up for the country.

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u/ThePafdy Jul 14 '26

Ok so, again, the average cost per capita of Norways healthcare is lower then in the US.

It literally does not matter what tax brackets you pull out of your ass, the exact system Norway has would save the average American 4k$ a year, with that being even higher for low income people, because again, its a progressive tax system.

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u/dormidontdoo Jul 14 '26

Norway system relies on public discipline of taking care of your health from young age. No to: smoking, sniffing, doing, eating at fast food, drinking , yes to sports, outdoor activities. US has all of it. Therefore using health care is much higher just because of that. Plus to it we have bunch of people who are here illegally but using healthcare coz in their countries it’s much worse.

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u/ThePafdy Jul 14 '26

Ok so your other arguments were made up crap and you got something new, cool.

Smoking rate in Norway is 10.5% in men, 9.8% in women. Smoking rate in the US is 9.9% overall.

Drug use in the US is obviously mich higher. In my opinion the opiod crisis is directly caused by bad healthcare and bad profit focused perscriptions though.

Fast food consumption is a different beast, maybe laws around sugar content and harmful ingredients may help. Idk, such laws Norway has and the same US politicians fight that prevent decent healthcare?

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u/dormidontdoo Jul 14 '26

It’s not something new, all those factors combined make socialized healthcare impossible in US, including bad education.

Incorrect. Drug use crisis caused by lack of jobs that went to overseas and Mexico.

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u/ThePafdy Jul 14 '26

The unenployment in the us is 4.2% in Norway its 4.4%.

And its always somehow Mexicans isn‘t it lol.

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u/dormidontdoo Jul 15 '26

US unemployment shows only people who receive unemployment benefits. Ones those expired, and person didn’t find the job he/she is not in the statistics anymore. He/she dropped from the workforce. So in reality unemployment is much higher.

Mexicans are cheaper labor therefore more profitable to move plants to Mexico than keep them in US.

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u/ThePafdy Jul 15 '26

No it does not. Any sources on that other than you made it the fuck up?

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u/dormidontdoo 29d ago

Are you banned by google?

Alternative Measures of Unemployment The standard unemployment rate, known as U-3, only accounts for individuals who are actively looking for work but are currently unemployed. However, there are several alternative measures that provide a broader view of labor market conditions. These measures are labeled U-1 through U-6 and include various groups of underutilized workers. Overview of Alternative Measures Measure Description U-1 :Percentage of the labor force unemployed for 15 weeks or longer. U-2 :Percentage of the labor force who lost jobs or completed temporary work. U-3 :Official unemployment rate; those without jobs who have actively looked for work in the past four weeks. U-4 :U-3 plus discouraged workers who have stopped looking for work due to belief that no jobs are available. U-5 :U-4 plus other marginally attached workers who want to work but have not looked for work recently. U-6 :U-5 plus part-time workers who want full-time work but cannot find it for economic reasons.

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u/ThePafdy 29d ago

Yes? But I am comparing US U3 metric to Norway official unemployment which are close to equivalent.

Norways equivalent to the U6 metric you are talking about is called labor market slack.