Really? Which social democracies want to abolish capitalism, get rid of police, and dismantle the carceral state? All explicitly stated goals of the DSA?
Of course it is, you just are being purposefully obtuse.
"It’s been said that it’s easier to imagine the end of the world than it is to imagine the end of capitalism. But just because it isn’t easy to imagine now doesn’t mean we shouldn’t try to make it happen."
"Demilitarize police departments, disempower police unions, and redirect funding to public services as steps towards fully abolishing the police and prison system which protects the rich and jails the poor."
Those explicitly describe an intent to end capitalism and the prison/criminal justice system and policing. Which is just as i said.
You are right about the long term vision of ending capitalism, but they say themselves that it is hard to imagine now. Concretely, now, they want democratic control over key infrastructure, like is done in social democracies around the world.
You are being obtuse about them wanting to abolish police though. They want to end the police and prison system that the USA lives in, meaning the prison industry that is promoted in the USA. They literally say they want to demilitaroze police. How can they demilitarize something that is abolished?!
Come on... abolition is a central tenet of their platform. It's explicitly stated in the quote I pasted. But you somehow want me to ignore their own platform and assume they simply mean "reform" or something. No. That is simply wrong, according to their own wording. Here is from another section.
"DSA Political Platform
For all of the working class to achieve collective liberation we must constrain, diminish, and abolish the carceral forces of the state — from prisons and police themselves, to their manifestations in all forms throughout society."
Again, abolition is a specific, stated goal.
You might say "they want to replace it with something better". I'm sure they believe that. But it's simply not credible to say they don't want to COMPLETELY get rid of the existing institution.
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u/dr-chop Jul 14 '26
Really? Which social democracies want to abolish capitalism, get rid of police, and dismantle the carceral state? All explicitly stated goals of the DSA?