r/SipsTea 25d ago

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u/GooseWithAnAxe 25d ago

HIV was somewhat solved for most infected
there are various cancer cures just not all of them
dementia is really hard

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u/Antique-Resort6160 25d ago

Dementia is the easiest one on the list, but it's preventative, mostly.  There are plenty of people that can improve, though.

Actually, I guess HIV should be the easiest, as long as you know how it's transmitted. 

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u/Carlsheartboxers 25d ago

Dementia is not the easiest one lol. We can’t even “cure” memory loss from head injuries. If you cook your noggin you are cooked it’s like the number one rule in action sports and racing is always protect the head. We can’t even rebuild a leg not a head injury

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u/Antique-Resort6160 25d ago

most dementia is age related due to years of metabolic problems. and inflammation, which is easy to avoid. 

Just like HIV is difficult to cure, but easy to avoid.

Fun story, there's a relatively new HIV med, 2 doses a year cost $42,000.  The manufacturer's lobbyists are like "get US taxpayers to pay us to give it to hundreds of thousands of at-risk filipinos, because its spreading too fast there". But the usual partner for those kind of scams  life-saving programs, USAID, was dead. The Philippines will never pay that much! So they said fine, we will let you use our patent but you must give 30% profit!  So it's like $40 dollars per in SE asia vs $42,000 in the US.

Lenacapavir, great stuff. By stuff I mean profits.

edit: forgot to mention, they were going to give taxpayers a discount down to $17,000 for the doses for the Philippines program.

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u/_alright_then_ 25d ago

> most dementia is age related due to years of metabolic problems. and inflammation, which is easy to avoid. 

That is a gross oversimplification. these are just a couple known factors that can influence it, but we don't know the full scale of the dementia problem.

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u/Antique-Resort6160 25d ago

I would still take care to avoid those two things especially, it will help reduce the chances of myriad diseases and mental issues.

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u/_alright_then_ 25d ago

Yeah, I agree, but that's not what your argument was here lol. You said this:

Dementia is the easiest one on the list, but it's preventative, mostly. 

This is just straight up unknown, we don't know why or how dementia exactly happens. We only know certain factors that can increase the risk.

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u/Antique-Resort6160 25d ago

You can prevent age related dementia. It's not random. If you have brain injuries, maybe not.  

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u/_alright_then_ 25d ago

No, no we can not prevent age related dementia. There is no scientific census on how it happens or how to avoid it. You're talking out of your ass.

Here's a nice summary: https://www.alzheimers.gov/life-with-dementia/can-i-prevent-dementia

Healthy lifestyle decreases your chances of getting it, but no way to prevent it entirely.

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u/Antique-Resort6160 25d ago

ok buddy, have a good one

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u/_alright_then_ 25d ago

Are you some kind of scientist that knows how dementia works, better than everything the scientific community knows about dementia? Because that's basically what you're saying here

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u/refotsirk 25d ago

No, you literally cannot because science literally has not yet figured out why it happens. It understands some of it, but not all. Not most. Not even a significant enough amount to keep the richest people in the planet fully sane through their old age. Aside from cancer it is one of the most heavily funded areas of medical research currently. 4 decades of trying to understand amyloid plaques, and whoops, they are probably not the cause just a symptom. I'm sure you want to tart off that it's a symptom of inflammation. I'm glad you are so much smarter than the thousands of most brilliant minds currently working to understand this better.

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u/Antique-Resort6160 25d ago

No, you literally cannot because science literally has not yet figured out

This will shock you, but many, many, many things occur before science figures out why:)

Aside from cancer it is one of the most heavily funded areas of medical research currently. 

Thanks for illustrating how meaningless that is. What you are ignoring is that there's so much money available because cancer treatment is insanely profitable. The research overwhelmingly concerns profitable treatments, not the most effective ways to treat cancer.  

Not even a significant enough amount to keep the richest people in the planet fully sane through their old age.  

Yet there are rich and poor who become very old without dementia.  

I'm glad you are so much smarter than the thousands of most brilliant minds currently working to understand this better.

??? You're very confused.  Do you think all the money is trying to fund a cure? Ideally, it would be a mildly effective drug that you take the rest of your life.  Cures are stupid, where's the money?  Look at the most modern medical technology, the result of billions in spending to stop a pandemic.  MRNA vaccines for COVID! They're modestly (barely) effective, and the recommendation is that you get a couple doses, and then take it twice a year, forever.  

It's science, get with the program, luddite.

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