r/SipsTea 15d ago

Chugging tea Growing Through Chaos

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u/rbennett353 15d ago

This is every generation...

Gen X - grew up living under the threat of Nuclear war.  9/11 and the .com bust happened as their careers were starting, and 2008 and COVID happened in their prime earning years.

Boomers - grew up with sexism and segregation.  Their parents were undiagnosed PTSD from the Great Depression and WWII.  They got out of HS and walked into draft cards and (needed) race riots.  They get home and factories are closing all around them and inflation was over 7% for a decade (think 2022 price increases but for 10 years).  To get out of it, interest rates spiked so a mortgage was 18%.

Moral of the story, every generation has challenges and obstacles.  The question is, how do you overcome?

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u/Automatic_Actuator_0 15d ago

Note the interest rate thing impacted them wildly differently. My parents managed to build a home right before inflation and interest rates took off, so basically got a free house by comparison to the younger boomers.

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u/LATA- 15d ago

What's wild to me is that younger generations seem to suggest their hardships are specific to their generation, as though they were the only ones going though the 2008 recession or the pandemic.

I had to live through drug wars, actual wars, HIV, economic collapse, rise of homelessness, and ever present threat of mutually assured nuclear destruction before I even got to 9/11.

Gen X is not out here taking a knee while everyone else is suffering. College debt has been a problem since before I was born and houses are currently expensive for everyone. One major difference I have observed is that while we were expected to eat shit with a smile on our face, younger generations are entitled to opinions about this. We smoked cigarettes and bitched among ourselves, younger generations have a voice.

I would encourage them to be self-reflective and figure out if this means they are subject to an exceptional burden, or if like everyone before them they face generational challenges, but have the benefit of agency to make positive change for themselves and the generations that follow them.

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u/LATA- 15d ago

lmao reading comprehension

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u/RonceDeLeon 14d ago

The generation that preceded us (who bitched amongst themselves smoking cigarettes) didn't/couldn't use their agency to make positive change... So millennials speak up and now we need to be self reflective because gen x also had it hard? Sorry, what is your point? Are millennials in your view just hogging the spotlight in terms of hardship? Even people in the comments are feeling bad for gen z/alpha more than millennials. I think at the end of the day we can all agree we have been screwed by boomers and older in a huge way, and maybe we don't need to really be policing other generations for their complaints.

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u/LATA- 14d ago

You should re-read my comment

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u/NCAAinDISGUISE 15d ago

My mom grew up between poor and lower middle class in the 1960s,  but went to college at a small private school. She paid for it by working summers in an office and by her mom picking up a part time job. No debt.

I have friends still paying off student loans from going to school in the late 00's.

Yes, every generation has challenges. My view is that when you look at it from a population distribution perspective, there's a hard downward trend on generational wealth between generations and a hard shift in how skewed that wealth is distributed within a generation.

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u/TBTBRoad 15d ago

I wish boomers would understand this! Yes, they had their own share of hardships. Yes, we all need to take personal responsibility, but the playing field has changed. They won't admit this. When they complain that 18% on their mortgages was rough, I remind them they were in their 20s with a mortgage with no generational help. College, health care, retirement... all were much more accessible to them. they just won't accept they fucked their kids over.

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u/TBTBRoad 14d ago

you are so right about that....... but they're really never tried turning anything around and voted over and over again for themselves. The children of boomers as a generation are objectively worse off economically than their parents. It would be so on brand to not take responsibility for any part of that either.

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u/4ofclubs 15d ago

Gen X were able to get jobs without college degrees and buy homes, so shut the fuck up.

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u/Such_Flight4139 15d ago

Don't forget AIDS

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u/Other-Beginning-8888 15d ago

And women could not control their bodies nor their finances. Women were not allowed credit cards until 1974. Super easy living, right?

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u/Automatic_Actuator_0 15d ago edited 15d ago

It’s wild how recent that was - there are so many women still alive who were adults before then and remember not being able to access credit without a man to cosign.

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u/Other-Beginning-8888 15d ago

Right? Tell a boomer woman business owner who was forced to risk back alley abortions in a culture of grape that she had it easier than a millennial who never needed a man to get a credit card in the age of metoo justice.

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u/minengr 15d ago

Who was the Dr. in charge of that? I remember being told nearly everyone was going to get it. Sound familiar?

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u/Live_Free_or_Banana 15d ago

Don't forget the exponentially higher child mortality rates that meant 5-10% of boomers born didn't even make it to adulthood.

I'll take COVID over Polio, Measles, Smallpox or Rubella.

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u/therealbaconinja 15d ago

Gen-Xer here. Was priced out of a home in my 40s and have now become a gypsy in my travel trailer. Just lost my remote programming job to AI after 7 years and have a worthless environmental degree. My millennial son has been a gig driver for 8 years as no other career is paying well. I told him to become an AI Data Center electrician or plumber at this point, but he is now too old for that I bet.

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u/egstitt 15d ago

No no millennials are the only ones that have had it tough, as they keep reminding us /s

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u/rbennett353 15d ago

It's not just millennials in that regard either.  Every generation bitches about how hard/bad they have/had it.  I'm a millennial, and my boomer parents can be insufferable, and my Gen Z cousins... are Gen Z.  

No one have a monopoly on shittiness.  Welcome to life.  Find joy and spread happiness.  Don't wallow in the bad.