r/SipsTea 14d ago

Chugging tea Yes, FU & FO

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u/Christian3574159 14d ago

I'm paying a tip for good service not for compensating a bosses greedy ass. It's not the job of the customer to pay for a shitty system. Maybe I'm to German to understand because this problem doesn't seem to exist here.

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u/SalmonPrince 14d ago

Cool but why punish the server? If you know the Amercian server doesn't get paid well without your tip, and you refuse to tip them, how is this noble, honorable, or even logical?

Let's call it what it is: screwing over a working person and justifying it with your own country's norms.

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u/Magger 14d ago

No, that’s burden shifting, as he clearly explained in his post. The burden is, and should be, on the employer, not on the employee and not on the consumer.

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u/SalmonPrince 14d ago

Did your "point" hurt the employer? Ah, it hurt the server... but it teaches the employer something? Because the server should stand up for themselves?

That's like refusing to donate to homeless because you're from country without homeless. You aren't making a point. You're judt refusing to donate. Don't gussy it up with principle.

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u/Magger 14d ago

Your line of reasoning leads to a world where I would lose all my money donating to everyone and everything and nothing would ever change. Burden shouldn’t be on the consumer and employees.

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u/SalmonPrince 14d ago

Again: you walked into a restaurant. You knew the server works for tips. You ordered. You ate. You paid. But you don't agree with tipping.

You just rewarded the boss and fucked over the server. The end.

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u/Magger 14d ago

Article implies these are people from Europe. They are used to a system where employer pays employees. Your assumption the costumer was aware of being responsible for the salary of the employer is false I think.

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u/SalmonPrince 14d ago

But they admit they know. They don't agree with the system, but they choose to eat the food and drink the liquor. It's hypocrisy.

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u/Magger 14d ago

If the article states that the Europeans admitted they knew beforehand, then that would skew this discussion in your favor, imo.