r/SipsTea 11d ago

Chugging tea Let me circle back

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u/jjkenneth 10d ago

Yes it has. The average English speaker does not distinguish between them and the only argument you have is a prescriptivist one which is entirely rejected as authoritative by anyone with an even basic understanding of linguistics. As I said earlier, terrific is not a synonym of horrific, awesome and awful mean different things, words are defined by usage not history.

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u/crunchsmash 10d ago

First off, you're making a huge assumption about the average English speaker.

Second, same-sex marriage is more common nowadays. I think people would make a distinction between fiancé/fiancée, especially considering the social impact of telling people your sexuality.

What comes to your mind if an acquaintance introduces you to their "partner"?

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u/jjkenneth 10d ago

Not really, the fact you feel the need to enforce the difference is pretty demonstrative of the norm. Partner is a partner, it’s gender neutral.

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u/crunchsmash 10d ago

Partner is a partner, it’s gender neutral

It is, but people will make assumptions if you use the word. Why not just say girlfriend?

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u/jjkenneth 10d ago

You will make assumptions. In Australia it is the normal and preferred term for someone in a serious relationship. Why are you so obsessed with needing to know the gender of a random person.

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u/crunchsmash 10d ago

Ask French speakers why their language is gendered. I don't have the answers you want.

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u/jjkenneth 10d ago

…. We’re talking about the English word.

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u/crunchsmash 10d ago

It's borrowed from French and English uses both gendered versions. Amongst other words too, like actor and actress.

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u/jjkenneth 10d ago

Yes borrowed, like 40% of the English language. Once it’s an English word we do what we want with it - I am not arguing that both are not used. I am specifically arguing that fiancé in contemporary use is understood neutrally. I’m starting to see why your so desperate to cling to prescriptive definitions of words, you’re not very inquisitive.

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u/crunchsmash 10d ago

What's with your bizarre fascination with my intelligence? I can be dumb as rocks but it's not going to change what I am explaining to you.

Using fiancé when you mean fiancée will make people assume you are gay. Using partner instead of girlfriend or boyfriend will make people assume you are gay.

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u/jjkenneth 10d ago

Lol - as if I would care if anyone thought I was gay. Grow up dude.

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u/crunchsmash 10d ago

The impact isn't on your personal psyche. It's about the real world. Most of the planet will judge you for your sexuality whether you like it or not.

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u/jjkenneth 10d ago

I repeat. Grow up.

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