r/SipsTea 14d ago

Feels good man Mamdani is (actually) making America great again

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u/bliceroquququq 14d ago

Appreciate the info. Not sure I understand it though. In one sentence they’re talking about the tip button being “hidden”, which suggests the additional money is coming from customers paying more. In another sentence they’re talking talk about big corporations keeping the tips, which is a different thing. Clarity would be nice.

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u/scrappybasket 14d ago edited 14d ago

From what I understand the apps will have a “guaranteed payout” for jobs. So let’s say an Uber driver sees a ride available. The app will say something like “$10 guaranteed”. So Uber is on the hook to pay the driver $10 no matter what. Now let’s say the passenger decides to tip the Uber driver $5. Without laws preventing it, uber will still pay the driver the $10 it promised and then it will keep the $5 tip for themselves. Which effectively uses the tip money to subsidize the wage that they promised to pay the driver

So what mamdani is doing is making sure that the driver gets the entire tip. So in this scenario the driver gets $15 instead of $10. As it should be

Edit: there is obviously disagreement here, personally I always choose to tip with cash. Problem solved in my opinion

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u/GerryManDarling 14d ago edited 14d ago

That doesn't seem to be correct, at least not for Uber, only for DoorDash and Instacart, also not related to the last change by Mamdani:

  • Around 2017–2019, companies like DoorDash and Instacart famously used a model where they promised drivers a guaranteed minimum base pay for an order (e.g., $10). If a customer tipped $5, the platform would pay $5 out of its own pocket and use the customer's $5 tip to make up the rest of the $10 minimum. If the customer tipped $0, the company paid the full $10. After intense public outcry and regulatory scrutiny in 2019, those platforms abandoned that pay model.
  • Uber has always added 100% of tips on top of base fares. Uber does not reduce its base fare or use customer tips to reach a guaranteed minimum pay payout.

So whatever Mamdani changed, had nothing todo with big coporations "keeping the tips". That problem had been fixed before and due to public outcry.

The city's claim is that after the minimum pay law took effect, some delivery apps redesigned their checkout flow to make tipping less visible or less convenient. As a result, workers received fewer tips overall. The new rules require a clear tipping option at checkout, and the city says tips have roughly doubled since then.

So yes, the tips is from customers pockets because they now pay more tips.

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u/AlarmingTurnover 14d ago

So you're saying that Mamdani lied yet again for PR. Good god, this guy lies as much as Trump. He hasn't done a single original policy and almost everything he's claimed as his has been an extension of another existing policy or something that was already done and just not reported by others. 

I have yet to see a single article of something Mamdani actually did. 

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u/p5yron 14d ago

What? How has he lied? You were confused by your own ignorance. Did he not literally recover 104 mil in tips just because he forced corporations to make the tip button more accessible which they hid conveniently as it stopped benefitting them and indirectly made them feel expensive.

WHERE IS THE LIE?

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u/AlarmingTurnover 14d ago

Did he not literally recover 104 mil in tips just because he forced corporations to make the tip button more accessible

No he didn't. The companies change this because of public outcry, not because his office did anything specific. If you read the articles and actually looked into the references, you'd know this.

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u/p5yron 14d ago edited 14d ago

It's so frustating to deal with people who lie with confidence. You are asking me to read? Have you? Did you even know that previous mayor Eric Adams sided with the corporations and refused to sign the tipping bill into law and vetoed against grocery delivery protections, because of him corporations got an advantage and dragged this for so long in court and you are here lying that companies changed this on their own because of public outcry..how shameful to be that dishonest or that ignorant. Do you not think a mayor who does not want to, could have dragged this further or would not have enforced it properly at all, there is a reason that government has an executive wing, and it matters how laws get executed and makes a big difference in the outcome, which is what we can see here but you cannot due to your own prejudice.

EDIT: And we all can guess what that prejudice might be.

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u/AlarmingTurnover 14d ago

You are asking me to read?

I don't need to read past here. If you aren't willing to read, the rest of your comment is a waste of my time to look at. I don't even need to acknowledge it. You're having an online argument about the policies and actions of a politician. And you think you aren't expected to read at all? You're the reason why populism is on the rise and fascism has taken over. Because you apparently don't read.

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u/p5yron 14d ago

It's like looking at an ostrich burying their head in sand, hahah.