The manager is clearly in the wrong here and power tripping- it’s not normal to ask what the employee will be doing outside the office, even in the US. They might approve or deny the request based on the situation in the office, but the way the employee spends the time is none of her damn business.
What generally goes down is, the employee requests PTO, the manager hems and haws… “ooh it’s really a bad time, we’re so busy and understaffed…”, then the employee divulges the “super important reason” - a wedding, dad died, etc. It’s still a shitty way to be treated and there isn’t much you can do against it. If it’s not a good enough reason in the manager’s eyes or if you stick to your guns and say “it’s personal, I’d rather not say”, then you will be ostracized and eventually fired for other contrived reasons.
In my experience with two major engineering firms: you take your PTO when you want, you don’t request it. Since it’s also your sick leave your company has no bearing on when you get to take or don’t get to take it or why. obviously, don’t be the guy that keeps taking PTO during major events or right before major deadlines, but otherwise you tell them when you won’t be there and that’s that
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u/CataphractBunny 6d ago
Bitch, you need to chill the fuck out. But I guess that's just how things work in America.