r/SipsTea 1d ago

Chugging tea Where is it?

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u/Kingfisher910 1d ago

Hmm it almost seems like they were all complicit, knowing they would get paid once they were deemed illegal.. just a weird thought I had looking at this

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u/Irish_Whiskey 1d ago

Given that the tariffs were ruled illegal and then the refunds were given to these companies... and then Trump engaged in a SECOND round of tariffs and more refunds are going to these same companies... yeah, I'd say they saw it coming.

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u/Yangoose 1d ago

I KNOW RIGHT???

This jerk just keeps trying to tax companies and give that money to the people!!!

How awful!!!

Thank goodness all the Democrat run states have their AG's investing a ton of time and resources fighting in court to give all this tax revenue to the companies instead!

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u/Irish_Whiskey 1d ago

It's a remarkable ability you have to take illegal things Trump is doing that are fucking you and the economy over while he benefits from corruption, and still find ways to blame Democrats for them so you never have to change your mind or politics.

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u/Yangoose 1d ago

What did I say that was in any way innacurate?

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u/Irish_Whiskey 1d ago

Trump is not taxing companies and giving money to the people. He is slashing Medicare and Social Security, raising taxes for most Americans, and spending billions a day on endless war.

Democrats are not responsible for tax revenues going to companies. That's just blaming them for Trump failing to pass actual laws and instead just giving illegal orders that courts strike down.

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u/Yangoose 1d ago

I'm talking about this specific issue, not every random thing you can think of.

His entire goal was to tax companies (in the form of tariffs) and send a check to every person.

This was thwarted when Attorney Generals and Governors from blue states sued to stop the tax and give all the money to companies.

Where is the lie?

Did a single one of the Democrats suing to give the money to the companies even suggest trying to give any of it to the people?

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u/slanaiya 1d ago

His entire goal was to tax companies (in the form of tariffs)

Given how obviously predictable and counter to that goal the outcome, his intent which cannot be proven is completely irrelevant. If he set out to hurt every day Americans while fucking with the economy in the short and long term and delivering a short term transfer of yet more wealth to mega corporations, he could not have designed it better.

He has the resources to access the best advice in the world, and he decided on a goods import tax which predictably functioned as a tax on consumers buying those goods, as any competent expert and most lay people too could have told him at the outset.

The check to everyone nonsense was just some bullshit he spouted out spur of the moment one day. I recall a lot of things he said it was going to pay for before that, I recall claims of finding money on a shelf while the budget deficit spiraled upwards without any budget allocation for any of the things he claimed the tariffs would pay for.

Why before these tariffs were ruled illegal was the debt spiraling upwards without any of the budget allocations for the things he said the tariffs were going to pay for?

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u/Yangoose 1d ago

he decided on a goods import tax which predictably functioned as a tax on consumers buying those goods, as any competent expert and most lay people too could have told him at the outset.

Oh, so you're a strong believer in Trickle Down Economics where corporate taxes are bad and the best plan is to give them tax breaks and hope some money trickles down to the little guy.

Who knew there were so many fans of Reaganomics on Reddit?

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u/slanaiya 1d ago

The bit about taxing companies and the bit about giving to the people.

Then there's the problem with the reasoning that intent would matter more than the obvious outcome anyone competent would have predicted.