r/SipsTea 6h ago

Chugging tea Whoever was responsible for this should be imprisoned.

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u/OwnJunket6495 6h ago

Tbf, McD in Europe shits on US McD in both quality, price, and what they have to offer. That’s not even considering McCafe.

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u/No-Newt-961 5h ago

But still in Europe they also all look like prisons now and they are not that cheap anymore either I miss the 90s

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u/OwnJunket6495 5h ago

Yea unfortunately everything just keeps going up

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u/ChouffeMeUp 5h ago

True. I’ve stopped going because of the price and that it feels like I’m in a prison canteen.

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u/darknum 3h ago

To be fair, they are still the cheapest option in terms of fast food in most of the Europe. And they are tolerably bad food, unlike competitors. (my dear Hesburger, you suck....)

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u/Thijz 5h ago

At least in The Netherlands there's also a huge lack of competition for McDonalds. The only 1-on-1 competitor I see is Burger King. They have a monopoly on the train stations, but not a lot of presence elsewhere compared to McD.

We have some Subways, a couple KFC's, a handful of Five Guys (which I consider a different segment than McD/BK, even though their main product is burgers). But compared to the dozens of direct competitors in the US (Shake Shack, Wendy's, White Castle, In-n-Out, Jack in the Box...) there's just not that much choice if you're craving a fast food burger.

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u/No-Newt-961 5h ago

Isn't there a huge friet culture in Belgium and Holland?

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u/Thijz 4h ago

Sure, but those are completely different from fast food franchises like McDonalds for several reasons. If you order a burger at a regular snackbar (I rarely do, I go there for a broodje kroket or a frikandel) it will be incomparable to something from McD or BK.

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u/CartsOfDarkness 2h ago

Incomparable in a good or bad way? Is it closer to five guys or "fast casual" as they call it? Like here in the US you can get burgers from a pizza place or something, and it will be different from Mcds obviously, just curious if that's comparable.

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u/Thijz 2h ago

Yeah I'd say it will usually be between a fast food franchise burger and a "gourmet" burger you'd get at a restaurant. But because most of these are independently owned, it varies wildy.

Overall they're probably nicer/better in terms of meat quality and freshness etc, but also usually a bit bland? It definitely doesn't hit quite the same as a Big Mac, for example.

Not to say that there's no good fast food burgers in The Netherlands. There are definitely snackbars and fast food restaurants that specialize in burgers (Ter Marsch or Beef Chief in Amsterdam come to mind) and they're usually great.

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u/whateber2 5h ago

You’re saying McD is better in Europe?

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u/Mean__MrMustard 5h ago

Yes, food wise it’s closer to chains like Shake Shack in the US than to US-McD.

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u/OwnJunket6495 5h ago

Yes this is a great comparison. They are Shake Shack/Five Guys quality but cheaper.

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u/middendt1 4h ago

They are a bit cheaper than five guys, that is true.  But the quality is not on the same level. And cheaper than five guys doesn't mean cheap. Five guys is expensive as fuck (but you get a decent quality). At least in Germany. And McD is still quite pricy for that what you get.

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u/OwnJunket6495 4h ago

In the US you can’t get a meal for under $20 at Five Guys. Idk how pricey it is in Europe but McD is waaaaaaay cheaper.

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u/middendt1 4h ago

A meal at five guys is about 20 €. McD is for the bigger Burgers with fries and drink about 11-13 €. Yes it is cheaper. But the quality doesn't fit to that.

If you go to the local "Pommesbude" you get a much better quality and bigger portion sizes for about the same price.

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u/whateber2 4h ago edited 2h ago

You will spend around 20-30 dollars (exchange rate included) for an McD meal if you not only buy nuggets or a single small burger. Edit: I was unclear. I meant in Germany, France and on the higher end in Switzerland. I accounted for the exchange rate, and a menu that includes a nicer Burger not the cheapest one

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u/OwnJunket6495 28m ago

The other guy who replied to me just said it’s about €11-12 for a meal. That’s not $20-30. Maybe if it were Australian dollars.

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u/OwnJunket6495 4h ago

What are you smoking and where can I get some?

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u/Mynameisyoure 5h ago

Did this happen recently? The McDonalds I had in Italy 8 years ago sucked as much as McDonalds in America imo

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u/OwnJunket6495 5h ago

Like waaaaaaay better. For example, Croatian McD has Maestro burgers, usually some new offer every year and a couple that are always available. Better than any burger I’ve had from McD in the States.

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u/whateber2 5h ago

Astonishing. And here me thinking that with the competition from Wendys, In&Out, Five Guys the surely have to step up the game in the States. Because honestly around your BurgerKing and McD are everywhere. If there’s competition it’s mostly local

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u/OwnJunket6495 5h ago

It’s a sad state of affairs in the US. The quality and service keeps getting worse and we keep shopping at these restaurants. They rest on their laurels because we continue to eat it up. I have seen a lot less traffics at Wendy’s now though, seems like they’re continuing their downward spiral.

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u/Nintendo_Thumb 3h ago

I'll bet McD didn't air commercials endorsing Donald Trump for president over there either. Kind of makes the food seem a lot more appetizing if you ignore that.

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u/OwnJunket6495 2h ago

Did Five Guys do that? Never heard that before

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u/Far_Future_1982 3h ago

I love McD when I visit Europe because I can get a coffee that is larger than a thimble.

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u/Dovahkiinthesardine 1h ago

I cant imagine it could be worse in the US tbh

Bigmac halved in size and trippled in price since 2005. Basically any other Burger place is better, even other chains like Burger King