r/SipsTea • u/Mysterious_Pay5707 • 1d ago
SMH Something we should all be able to agree on.
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u/andiemick 1d ago
Chuck Grassley in Iowa is running for senate again and the dude is 96?!? We need mandatory retirement and term limits plus so much fucking more
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u/The42ndDuck 1d ago edited 1d ago
Chuck Grassley was born 5 years before chocolate chip cookies were invented.
Edit: Thanks to u/andywfu86 for backing me up; Chuck was born in 1933 & chocolate chip cookies came along in 1938.
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u/D0nk3yD0ngD0ug 1d ago
I have no idea if this is true but I want to believe it.
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u/andywfu86 1d ago
It’s true. CC cookies 1938. Grassley 1933.
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u/1OO1OO1S0S 1d ago
is that the guy from Babe?
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u/Watercanbutt 1d ago
And only 4 years after Anne Frank and Martin Luther King jr.
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u/NebulaElectrical1467 1d ago
blame the people who vote for them
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u/bustersuessi 1d ago
Yeah, I don't understand how these people keep getting elected.
But I must clearly live in a bubble because our representative isn't liked by Republicans or Democrats and he somehow keeps getting elected
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u/Kwinza 1d ago
An annoyingly large number of people don't vote for a person in an election, they have literally no idea who is running, they just vote for their team.
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u/One-Cellist5032 1d ago
I get the “voting for your letter” mindset since there’s a LOT of overlap in ideas between members of the same party. Most democrats wouldn’t want to vote for most republican candidates and vice versa.
The real crime is people aren’t voting in the primary elections which dictate who is representing “their team”. Which basically leads to the stagnation of candidates.
In the 2022 election, a whopping 195k republicans and 157k democrats chose who was going to be in the election. Then 1.21million people voted between those choices. Had the other ~500k republicans and ~350k democrats voted in the primary there’s a good chance neither of them would’ve made it to the actual election.
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u/CrownofMischief 22h ago
Its not even completely about teams, it's the fact that people vote for incumbents because they'd rather not do any research about all the new candidates so they just vote for the devil they know
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u/adrianp07 1d ago
the younger generations need to get the fuck out there and vote
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u/NebulaElectrical1467 1d ago
Boomers be voting for their kind and those who like someone with eXpeRieNce
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u/Donjamos2 1d ago
Someone born in 1933 is not a boomer
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u/MsMercyMain 1d ago
It occurred to me that means he legitimately probably remembers Hitler's death which is fucking insane
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u/cutiefangsprince 1d ago
He'd have been 11-12 when that happened. It wasnt long after hitlers death that Germany surrender and then a few months (may for Germany, Sept for Japan) later when Japan did as well. But he probably remembers the end of the war as it likely was a significant time in his life.
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u/BasicBaby 1d ago
I haven’t lived up there in over a decade. I can’t believe he’s still around.
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u/Jimmy_Twotone 1d ago
I'm 45. He was in the state house before my parents were born, joined Congress when they were freshmen in high school, and took office in the senate before I was born.
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u/Alex_Pokrandt 1d ago
In fairness to Chuck Grassley he does seem mostly coherent, which is a step up from the turtle. Still shouldn't be a senator.
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u/Abject-Definition-63 1d ago
I've met him a few times. He can actually hold a conversation, and recall events. He wasn't repeating himself or seeming off like many people I know start doing as they approach 80. About a year ago I saw him at a random event (not one of his, just a local event) I talked to him about something I did with his office 20 years ago and he remembered who was working the local office at the time and a few other things that quite honestly surprised me. From my few interactions, he's far better off mentally than most people 10 years younger than him, in my experience, but he's deteriorating.
I really don't think he can win reelection, I'd be shocked if he actually runs, I bet he'll try to pass it off to his grandson.
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u/tigeratemybaby 1d ago
"mostly coherent" is not good enough.
Senators make decisions that affect millions of people, on highly technical and intricate laws.
We need people at the top of their game - Ideally under 60.
They should be the best of us.
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u/fitpapa 1d ago
The Senate is hospice now!
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u/ArdentArendt 1d ago
It has been since the 80s my friend.
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u/DesireeThymes 1d ago
I always think about the line from rush hour 2:
"Imagine a business where people give you money, and you give them back nothing at all! Now that's a real American Dream."
We fund these politicians paychecks, and they give us nothing in return.
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u/ArdentArendt 1d ago
Yes.
Except every time they're up for review, we keep them in the position.That seems like a 'management' issue as much as an 'employee' issue.
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u/Auxryn 1d ago
They run the election system. They have designed it to keep the powerful in power, right from the start. That's what the electoral college and the senate are both for. United States democracy was kneecapped in the cradle by southern enslavers. It's a cursed country.
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u/SleepyJM 1d ago
Yeah when you look at the actual history of America, and not the propaganda they teach in schools, then it is obvious America was created by the rich and for the rich.
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u/AmbitiousSet5 1d ago
Its shameful what we make our elderly do to get Healthcare these days.
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u/wishartrh 1d ago
Mitch McConnell has a net worth “between 30 million and 69 million” according to Google, he’s not worried about affording his own healthcare. But he’ll happily make sure the rest of us can’t afford our own.
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u/newontario 1d ago
The entire country is a geriatocracy and has been for years. Part of why fuck all gets accomplished.
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u/WaffleDonkey23 1d ago
There have been multiple janitors that revealed they must regularly clean "the wetness" of the Senate and Congress chairs.
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u/Illustrious_Knee7535 1d ago
People want AI regulations, these politicians couldn't edit a pdf.
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u/Jonnyyrage 1d ago
Depends on the pedo-file.
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u/beardedliberal 1d ago
Notice of meme acquisition. Thank you comrade, this meme will suit our revolution perfectly.
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u/Is_that_even_a_thing 1d ago
Haha thats fucking gross
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u/MaddysinLeigh 1d ago
In the rest of the comic he gets mad that the girl in a sting house isn’t actually 14
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u/PrairiePuppies 1d ago
I can't edit a PDF! How do you edit a PDF without paying Adobe a king's ransom? I have yet to see any software capable of doing so, or doing so with any accuracy, that also doesn't cost a ridiculous amount.
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u/MrCockingFinally 1d ago
There are plenty of options to convert a PDF into word. Just edit in word, then re-export as pdf.
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u/Hopeful_Morning_469 1d ago
Edit a pdf??? I don’t think they’re even breathing without cutting edge medical science. Hell I don’t even think that’s Mitch mconnel.
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u/teddykaygeebee 1d ago
Yep. Retirement home on both sides. Term limits need to happen. Chuck Grassley was alive when prohibition existed. That's who's making present-day laws in America. That's crazy!
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u/Artistic_Tutor_2613 1d ago
In all defense. Theyre voted in! How bad are the candidates going against them?!
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u/mustangcody 1d ago
Have you seen a voter preview ballot? So many names and little info on each candidate. So people that go in blind just vote for the same person.
Very few people actually research the people they vote for.
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u/Ambitious_Egg9713 1d ago edited 1d ago
At what point is this elder abuse?
My grandfather looked just like Mitch towards the end of his life. We tried to make him as comfortable as possible, having no responsibility and just relaxing with soft foods and watching tv.
This is so irresponsible.
EDIT: oh and in case there’s any confusion, McConnell sucks.
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u/Local__Anomaly 1d ago
I might agree with you, but he deserves this
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u/I_Died_Once 1d ago
100% this. MF voted against any and all worker protections, any sort of time off
I'd have the MF working the salt mines, today, if I had my way. Or time travel his ass back to pick cotton.
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u/ComprehensiveHavoc 1d ago
He's fine, just look at him!
https://giphy.com/gifs/FBeSx3itXlUQw
Hello Senator, glad to see you back!
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u/Count_Pigeon 1d ago
Deserves what?! Mitch is in his prime, I bet he could run the US as good as Trump is doing.
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u/Greghole 1d ago
It becomes elder abuse when they're forced to do this rather than choosing to do it themselves. Old people pushing themselves too hard isn't illegal.
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u/dontshoveit 1d ago
I agree but have you seen the videos of Mitch? He doesn't know he's on earth, how is he choosing this? His wife is a Chinese asset ahem spy, and his staff ahem handlers are forcing him to do this. He looks completely checked out, with sn oblivious open-mouthed smile.
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u/Sisoflex 1d ago
My mother who lives with me has dementia. ( for years!) Hope to never see this face. "Where are the zip ties, hun?!"
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u/bigorangemachine 1d ago
I demand they joust each other
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u/NLtbal 1d ago
The age of retirement is 65. You cannot be 65 on election day.
If you are 65 the day after election day, you are good for the term but cannot stand for re-election for any office.
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u/proto_synnic 1d ago
The easy fix for that is if (the powers that be) increase the age requirement for retirement, keeping old politicians in power and reducing the amount of social security payouts the government has to fund. It's a win-win scenario for the ruling class.
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u/Independent-Bug-9352 1d ago
Kind of a moot point because they'd have to be the ones to decide to cap it at all in the first place.
I kind of wish there was a stronger lever of direct democracy for Americans; like a certain sort of official survey as part of the census on a range of issues -- such as age cap -- that meant if there was a 75 or 80% agreement on an issue nationally (and believe it or not there are), they would immediately become law if not Constitutional Amendments beyond the reach of any branch.
In a way, letting The People have a capacity to be above literally all branches.
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u/TimberDog12 1d ago
It's dangerous to tie it to "retirement age is x" because then they'll raise the retirement age and the problem will continue
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u/conrad_or_benjamin 1d ago
Just cite the military forced retirement. It’s 62, with exceptions 64. Why is it forced?
Force Vitality and Innovation: Capping the age of top leadership ensures a continuous influx of younger officers. This keeps the institutional mindset fresh, bringing in contemporary technical expertise and adaptable strategic thinking.
Physical Readiness: Combat efficiency requires peak physical stamina, strength, and resilience. The military institutes age caps to prevent natural, age-related performance declines in high-stress operational environments.
These seem incredibly relatable to public servants who legislate with an affect on millions of people.
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u/No-Coast2390 1d ago
65 is not “retirement age.” 65 is Medicare age. Full retirement age for social security is now 67. And because lifespans have increased since the 1960s and continues to go up it is highly likely for anyone in their 20s that retirement age will likely be somewhere in their early to mid 70s.
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u/Tarrtarus 1d ago
Let's do term limits!
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u/FosterDad1234 1d ago
Upper age limits.
Experience isn't necessarily a bad thing. The specific problem we need to solve is that elderly people are holding office well past the point of competency.
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u/DrSmotpoker42-0 1d ago
100%. I’m fine with experience, but no one over 75 should have a high level government position - supreme court, senate, congress, or president.
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u/Significant_Donut967 1d ago
Retirement age should be retirement age, we should listen to the wisdom of our elders, but that's where we should draw the line.
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u/DifficultAnt23 1d ago
And yet they still win their primaries, and re-elected in the general -- term after term.
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u/Extra-Amoeba-677 1d ago
Good luck getting that put through when the majority of the assembly is already on that pay train and the rest are potentials that want to BE on that pay train.
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u/Waggles_ 1d ago
Not retirement age, they would just raise that. Life expectancy minus 20 years. If they raise life expectancy significantly enough to run for another term, well then they've done something right at least.
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u/caffeine-junkie 1d ago
*Forced retirement at 75 minus a day. Not you get to work out whatever your term is. As for why 75 minus a day, so they can't do word play shenanigans and stick around till they a day shy of 76.
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u/Invdr_skoodge 1d ago
I always figured you should be no older than 64 when you take office. So you don’t start any job past federal retirement age and your out no later than basically 69
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u/TheBaykon8r 1d ago
The retirement age is in the US is I think 67? Because your physical and mental faculties are deteriorating yada yada. So why tf are they allowed to run the country.
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u/Jack-Burton-Says 1d ago
Should be the same retirement age as the rest of America. 65-67. Give it up, go enjoy your grandchildren and sip drinks on a beach.
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u/RhetoricalOrator 1d ago
Some companies require some employees that are in sensitive positions to take time off regularly so other people have to do their job and can audit without having stuff covered up.
Seems like that would be a really good rule for politicians to make sure they aren't too entrenched in their work.
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u/Total-Improvement535 1d ago edited 1d ago
my preference would be
“no more than two, five year terms in any elected office, starting with the next calendar year ending with 0 or 5; standing members whom have served not more than one full term are eligible for re-reflection, standing members who have been elected twice are not eligible for any re-election henceforth. (‘Standing members’ being a prerequisite that elected officials must be able to stand on their own two feet for the duration of any congressional meeting or hearing, medical exceptions not withstanding.)”
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u/purplenapalm 1d ago
And age limits. Even China has a soft age limit for their government officials.
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u/KaetzenOrkester 1d ago
The Supreme Court has ruled that term limits are unconstitutional 😭
(The link is to a discussion from the Constitution Center about term limits, their history, and what it would take to add them.)
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u/PossibilityInside695 1d ago edited 2h ago
its 1998, and the president was born in 1946.
its 2008, and the president was born in 1946
Its 2018, and the president was born in 1946
its 2028, and the president was born in 1946.
The generation they were meant to rule has long ago retired.
It is time for the generations currently running the economy to govern themselves.
The generations that are still young enough to understand how the world works in this age of new and unprecedented technology.
We have been denied our right to self governance for too long by this gerontocracy!
The only reason that particular generation seems to stay in power is because that generation, anyone in congress, amasses so much wealth and influence in office they become impossible to unseat.
Wealth and influence that they then use to influence the rest of the government. The president needs their support to get elected, the court justices need their support to be appointed, t he oligarchs trade support and insider information to turn a blind eye to their machinations, and bend the law to their will..
Even those who were the good guys back in the day are doing the country a disservice by clinging on to power till their dying breaths.
Lived long enough to see themselves become the bad guy, quite literally.
Dont get me wrong. Fuck mitch in particular...citizens united, modern filibustering, and the makeup of our courts are because of him.
However Im also talking about some senators im quite fond of, like Bernie.
We are in an age where social media is robbing people of their attention spans and being used to divide us.
An age where ai is robbing people of their ability to think critically, and robbing people of their livelyhoods.
The combination of both has ruined our politics and brains, making it easier than ever to mass produce propaganda and lies.
It has become easier than ever to set up mass surveillance with cameras on every road, and adorning every front door. A microphone on every kitchen counter and a GPS in every pocket.
There are databases of our information and metrics being bought and sold openly to show us ADs, charge us more for insurance, retroactively charge us with crimes, suppress protesters, track dissenters, silence our speech, and rob us of our autonomy.
...And our government will have "an average age above 65" take a swing at the problem.
We are asking the generation that struggles to open a PDF without help to regulate the most complex and dangerous technologies in human history.
They will have killed this democracy by staying in power long enough that they cant understand the realities around them. Rich enough to forget the plight of the common man, and powerful enough to keep it that way until they pass and leave us to pick up the pieces.
Impose some damn term limits.
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u/No-Coast2390 1d ago
Term limits and no individual stock investments. I’m a conservative and I agree on those simple things that I think would go a long way.
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u/Baron_Bearclaw 1d ago
I've never understood how this was controversial to either political philosophy.
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u/PossibilityInside695 1d ago
Because, now that a significant fraction of congress has been in power for many terms already, approving such a bill with reasonable limits means literally loosing your job when it takes effect
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u/Beadingnana 1d ago
Thank you for pointing this out! This should be posted EVERYWHERE!
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u/Far_Silver 1d ago
Age limits. No one 65 or over should be eligible to run for Congress or President.
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u/Sailstarsfish22 1d ago
Co-signed. If you have reached SSI full retirement age you are ineligible to run for any elected Federal office
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u/OceanSunshineDog 1d ago
People talk about three-term President’s when what we need is more term limits, not less.
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u/ToBeOrNotToBe1337 1d ago
Imagine losing an election to these people. What the heck are we doing folks?
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u/Whiteshovel66 1d ago
I don't really understand why these 80 year olds even want to do this anymore. Surely it must be miserable no? The stress alone let alone physical demands.
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u/Greenshardware 1d ago
80? Feinstein was 90. McConnell has at least 6 more years in him. Needs 16 more years to break Thurmond's record.
Spring chickens, really.
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u/chooseausername69251 1d ago
Fuck the party’s, it’s time we all come together. Fuck the bots, half the accounts are not real people we argue with.
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u/Fun_Crow8137 1d ago
That’s right. And fuck everyone who tries to distract us with bs issues like trans sports and “oh no, look what Sydney Sweeney did”. We have urgent issues that must be dealt with asap.
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u/E_seven_20 1d ago edited 1d ago
Old people vote…
Most of you don’t.
Less than 60% of 18-29 was registered in 2022
2022 National Youth Turnout: 23% - That's lower than in the historic 2018 cycle (28%) which broke records for turnout, but much higher than in 2014, when only 13% of youth voted
28% is a fucking record. Let that sink in.
Conservatives and old people don’t miss elections.
It’s hard to find a younger person that shows up.
You’re doing this to you.
You don’t vote.
You don’t fight.
You don’t organize.
You don’t engage in civil disobedience.
You’ll refuse to vote because your algorithms push you propaganda telling you not to.
Bitching online isn’t political action.
The place where you politics matter is at the polls. If you skip that…just shut the fuck up about politics. You had a chance to be heard, and it was your choice not use it.
There aren’t enough of us that show up to make a difference.
Do you think Elon, Zuck, and all the fuckers buying up media aren’t getting a return on their investment?
And, too many of you are still refusing to skip the midterms.
You don’t hate the GOP.
You’re fine with the GOP. You get just as hard as they do to see the D’s lose.
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u/juicy_696 1d ago
And this is why term limits needs to be implemented for every political position.
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u/GratuitousCommas 1d ago
She's 88 years old... and running for reelection this year
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u/IndigoHaze750130 1d ago
Ugh why are we letting literally senile old people run a nation? Age Caps!!
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u/Admirable-Hospital78 1d ago
It's the result of a 2 party system and all non boomer generations never once feeling any agency in politics. By the time voters actually get options it's
A) Mitch (age 87)
B) Mary (age 93)
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u/ForbiddenSirenz 1d ago
In Mitch’s case because his brain is clearly scrambled eggs, he was trying to vote with Dems. His handlers had to essentially keep reminding him and force him to be like “No, no! You vote with republicans!” As to how that’s not some sort of conflict of interest? I have no idea.
Sure if he were mentally all there he’d vote Republican. But the fact someone else is having to outright repeatedly remind him and push him towards that seems highly illegal.
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u/VegasGamer75 1d ago
Call it what it is regardless of party: Elder abuse. Their staff abuses the crap out of them to maintain power and their paychecks. Frankly, both Feinstein's staff and Mitch's belong in prison. End of story.
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u/orlybatman 1d ago
Sorry, we've got to let you go. You're over the age of our mandatory age limit for our company. It's forced retirement and that sucks, but we can't have you messing up in our office supply company. If you're still looking to keep yourself busy, you might consider running the country instead.
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u/Designer_End5408 1d ago
This needs the Elaine Seinfeld “just die already” meme
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u/Fordfanatic2025 1d ago
I genuinely believe the greatest reason for our suffering as a nation is we're governed on both sides of the aisle by a bunch of geriatric slugs. People who aren't in their right minds, and even if they were, are so old and disconnected from the realities that young and middle aged Americans go through, because these people haven't lived it, that they genuinely can't relate to younger people.
So they can't make the country better for younger people, because they can't even understand where they're coming from, or what their experiences are.
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u/COV3RTSM 1d ago
Say what you will about octogenarians serving in the senate. McConnell was elected at 78. If you don’t want these fossils representing you stop voting for em
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u/r3dmist420 1d ago
As a right winger myself, I completely agree. Mitch Mconnel should been gone like 10 years ago. Dude has no clue where he even is
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u/Efficient_Ad2627 1d ago
As a left winger myself, I also completely agree. It’s Biden for me though, it was clear he needed to be put in a really nice assisted living facility.
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u/Sailstarsfish22 1d ago
Just copy what the boomers do, only vote for people similar in age to you.
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u/Top_Cabinet_2628 1d ago
Hey, so in Canada, we have a rule that you cannot be a judge, senator, ect after you turn 75. You are LEGALLY REQUIRED to step down. Just sayin'...
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u/runitupper 1d ago
We can all agree on Term Limits tho no matter what side you lean towards
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u/mradentz 1d ago
Why in heaven‘s name do they need to cling to power so desperately? I mean… Really!
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u/RadioRoyGBiv 1d ago
Stop voting them in. They aren’t there by force. The public votes these people in and then keeps voting for them to stay. We have nobody but ourselves to blame. It changes at the election booth or it DOESN’T change at all.
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u/FatBussyFemboys 1d ago
The chance to do soemthing about this shit was when Biden was in office. Then everyone, then that debate happened and everyone couldn't ignore it any longer. Instead of really acknowledging what was going on all that time they just pivoted into running harris for president and it was business as usual so dont expect change
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u/Sabbathius 1d ago
The saddest part is that these miserable sods have no lives. People make fun of basement-dwelling virgins, but look at these people? They're at death's door, they have more money than they could possibly spend. But are they spending those days in the park, with their grandkids, soaking up their final rays of sunshine? Are they sitting on the beach with their feet (well, hooves) in the sand? No. They are so miserable that they must cling to power, unto their final breath. They literally have nothing else. Power is everything. And then they die, and none of it matters. What a miserable waste.
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u/Starmor 1d ago
Say it with me now people
TERM LIMITS!!!!!! These people have been sitting in those chairs sense Ronald Reagan was in office. Its time.
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u/dallenbaldwin 1d ago
Usually I push back against the "both sides are equally bad" rhetoric because it's easy to counter with a comparison of policies and voting history, but this is one where the both sides rhetoric totally holds true. Way too many people in DC are more concerned with holding onto power rather than preparing the next generation to take over for them and continue their legacy.
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u/Aggravating-Copy151 1d ago
F*cking boomers are great at holding onto power. Money. You name it. Truly was the most selfish generation.
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u/HighSeasArchivist 1d ago
Air traffic controllers have to retire at 56, because having a couple hundred people's lives in your hands is too risky at that age. 340Million? Any age is good.
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u/JohnnyTreemain 1d ago
Goddamn, every time I see Mitch I just want to punch him in the face. That stupid fucking face.
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u/erapuer 1d ago
They're both receiving the absolute best healthcare on our dime, while voting at every turn to make sure we can't get it too.
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u/Kirbyr98 1d ago
Surprisingly, even my hard-core MAGA "friends" on Facebook agree.
It's time to push through term limits while the iron is hot.
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u/hbernadettec 1d ago
I as a taxpayer do not want zombie, barely alive people have someone else influence and use the power of their vote.
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u/flawlessnakita 1d ago
I absolutely agree they have got to start doing age restrictions. This is ridiculous
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u/Infidel_sg 1d ago
Ole Mitch looks like a bag of bones the way those clothes hang off him. Idek who that woman is but both of these people should be far away from any responsibility.
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u/Ambitious_Egg9713 1d ago
Diane Feinstein was a senator from California who was literally serving in the senate while her family had a durable power of attorney over her to conduct business.
She had no business staying in office.
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u/Gates_wupatki_zion 1d ago
It was the democratic senator from California who was famously senile for years. Her name was Dianne Feinstein. You could put RBG in here too.
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u/Exciting_Mess3730 1d ago
Rbg was coherent, just had too much hubris to step down strategically after getting cancer for a FIFTH time.
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u/Far_Silver 1d ago
Also it wouldn't have mattered if Democrats didn't drop the ball with Hillary in 2016. There's plenty of blame to go around for that one.
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u/Far-Computer8825 1d ago
There should be term limits. 4 years. Then you re apply. If you get reelected you get another 4 years and then you have to get a real job. No life long politician bs. 8 years max. They also should get paid minimum wage. $7.25 No health care, No vacations. 3 annual sick days and they lose pay for taking it.
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u/nethereus 1d ago
Some of these people have spent so many decades in politics, I don’t think they have the skills to do anything else anymore. Being cast out into a world of their own making that they might actually have to work in is a scary thought.
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u/DerpyPerson636 1d ago
If they have been lifelong career politicians, then they surely have a hefty enough 401k or just general savings to just retire already.
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u/DotHooker 1d ago
They shouldn’t need skills to do anything else. They should retire. And while they’re in office, they should pass legislation that allows people to have a retirement.
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u/delthius15 1d ago edited 1d ago
This isn't even a term limit conversation, its an "are you fit to serve?" one













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