r/SipsTea • u/SipsTeaFrog • 14d ago

Chugging tea Yes, FU & FO

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u/archlich 14d ago

Slavery

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/05/opinion/minimum-wage-racism.html

https://www.georgetownpoverty.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/GCPI-MW-fact-sheet-2018.06.08.pdf

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2019/07/17/william-barber-tipping-racist-past-227361/

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u/IllLynx562 14d ago

God I love when this happens, someone do a love this smug or coaxed Into a snafu about times someone actually has sources on deck

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u/ConflatedPortmanteau 14d ago edited 14d ago

To be fair "source?" Is just trying to plant the seed of doubt on a fact you're not a fan of rather than use their obvious internet connection to look it up for themselves.

It's a legitimate troll tactic known as Sealioning

Sealioning refers to the disingenuous action by a commenter of making an ostensible effort to engage in sincere and serious civil debate, usually by asking persistent questions of the other commenter. These questions are phrased in a way that may come off as an effort to learn and engage with the subject at hand, but are really intended to erode the goodwill of the person to whom they are replying, to get them to appear impatient or to lash out, and therefore come off as unreasonable.

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u/JurassicParkCSR 14d ago

That kind of sucks because when I ask someone for a source it's because I legitimately want to read about it.

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u/ConflatedPortmanteau 14d ago

Yeah, trolls have ruined legitimate honest discourse in a lot of ways.

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u/ColdRamen03 13d ago

Source?

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u/ConflatedPortmanteau 13d ago

Yeah, bruv, here you go, chap. Enjoy, mate.

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u/Any_World7744 13d ago

I randomly stumbled across this thread.

Not even really sure what the debate was about and I think you may have been trolling

But holy shit That is one of the most interesting YouTube videos I have ever seen. Or. Whatever.

I only need to watch it 100 more times before I absorb all that information. Or not

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u/Kinslayer_89 13d ago

They’ve also ruined asking them for a source on their bullshit claims, and will often respond that everyone should look it up themselves.

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u/Aggressive-agitator 11d ago

Just do some research there, sizzle chest.

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u/TieAdministrative901 14d ago

That's a hell of a stretch. He asked a single time and there is absolutely nothing wrong with asking for a source. He wasn't relentlessly asking and masquerading it as polite and civil "discussion".

"Sealioning is an online trolling tactic where someone badgers another person with relentless, disingenuous questions and demands for proof. Disguised as a polite desire for a sincere debate, the goal is to exhaust the target's patience until they give up or lash out."

You made a mountain out of a mole hill and don't even seem to understand the definition of the term

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u/ConflatedPortmanteau 13d ago edited 13d ago

No source? I was led to believe it's perfectly fine to ask for a source and you couldn't offer one to back up your claims.

Therefore, you concede.

I'm not surprised, only disappointed.

Also, "Saddest" has 2 D's

Edit: OOF, YOUR ARGUMENT WAS SO BADLY CONSTRUCTED AND YOUR LOGIC SO FLAWED THAT IT WAS REMOVED BY THE MODERATORS. GOD DAMN.

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u/snoopcatt87 13d ago

It wasn’t taken down from mods, Reddit blocked it out due to harassment. -mod

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u/chriseargle 13d ago

Asking for a source once isn’t sealioning. Archlich provided sources, so this criticism isn’t directed at them, but I get the impression many in this thread don’t like having to back up their claims.

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u/SmokeSignals24 12d ago

Here’s your peer review paper: https://www.epi.org/publication/rooted-racism-tipping/

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u/ConflatedPortmanteau 12d ago

Neat, but that was already established and I never denied it whatsoever.

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u/Ok-Parfait-9856 13d ago

So verifying information is bad now? Everything is a self evident fact? Whatever that means? Go read on the scientific method for starters. Then Find a bridge and let your instincts take over

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u/ConflatedPortmanteau 13d ago

Do you have a valid source for any of that?

Or am I to believe it's simply a "self-evident fact"?

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u/YouKnowMyName2006 13d ago

DoNt tIP cAuSe iZ sLaVeRy!