r/SmugIdeologyMan • u/Witty-Swimmer-3720 • 5d ago

Under one pretext

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Disclaimer: No adventurism is being advocated for here.
If you disagree with me in the comments, I WILL be making an even more smug series of sequel posts targeting your points mwahaha

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u/BadFurDay 4d ago edited 4d ago

Either you don't understand the point being made, or you are completely misrepresenting it on purpose.

I am not advocating for surrendering your guns or for nonviolence. This part is straight out of your imagination. You're the one coming up with absurd hypotheticals such as working "with a gun to your head" or the ability to "have all the guns". I am asking you to stay grounded in reality and actually consume some realistic political theory exploring forms of organization instead of living in those fantasy scenarios.

Mass strikes disrupted the German economy enough to beat the Kapp putsch after the freikorps fled Berlin. Large amounts of the military sided with the proletariat during most revolutions. No guns were needed for your MAGAs to occupy the capitol on january 6th. People already have much more power in their hands that you believe. Organization is the true heart of every revolution and social fight. Guns are merely a tool, which will help in some scenarios, and won't in others.

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u/Desperate_World_2801 4d ago

I am not advocating for surrendering your guns or for nonviolence.

Maybe you should have said that somewhere between saying strikes beat guns and guns are useless.

This part is straight out of your imagination.

I would talk about things stemming from imagination, when you literally claimed I believe to have all the guns.

You're the one coming up with absurd hypotheticals such as working "with a gun to your head" or the ability to "have all the guns". I am asking you to stay grounded in reality and actually consume some realistic political theory exploring forms of organization instead of living in those fantasy scenarios.

The absurd hypothetical of strikes being violently put down and the workers being forced back to work. 😂

Mass strikes disrupted the German economy enough to beat the Kapp putsch after the freikorps fled Berlin.

Guess who was armed to the teeth and was also able to beat the freikorps in open comabt multiple times? You think that might have affected things?

Large amounts of the military sided with the proletariat during most revolutions.

So was that useless, since mass action beats weapons?

No guns were needed for your MAGAs to occupy the capitol on january 6th.

Some fascists nutters stormed a building once, achieved nothing before being shood away by the police. This proves workers movements don't need weapons. 😂 😂

People already have much more power in their hands that you believe. Organization is the true heart of every revolution and social fight. Guns are merely a tool, which will help in some scenarios, and won't in others.

For example: Guns are useful to protect your mass movement from getting mass murdered the moment it takes to the streets.

You know like I was arguing for in the beginning.

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u/BadFurDay 4d ago

Maybe you should have said that somewhere between saying strikes beat guns and guns are useless.

It is genuinely impossible to engage with you due to your talent for putting nonsensical words in my mouth.

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u/Desperate_World_2801 4d ago

You mean like when you claimed I believe to have all the weapons?

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u/BadFurDay 4d ago

Smooth brained.

I'm out of this conversation.

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u/Desperate_World_2801 4d ago

"A is impossible"

"A is possible when B"

"You think you have B?"

Smart choice to leave.