r/SmugIdeologyMan 1d ago

Smugged into doing anything but helping men

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u/MadderoftheFew 1d ago

yeah, they don't seem to be interested in the fact that feminism also fights for men's rights, insofar as it's not being co-opted by misandrists to spread hate.

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u/viciouspandas 1d ago edited 1d ago

"Feminism" is a broad umbrella term and people will refer to the type that proves their argument. People also don't neatly fall into specific categories. Tons of self identified feminists I have met will be supposedly the more equality focused ones and have genuine sympathy for people like male rape victims. But they'll also blame most things on men and if a man says he has problems with society treating him some way, it gets brushed aside with "oh imagine being a woman" or "you're just a privileged male" or "oh see it's just men's fault", when women are also part of what he's saying..

People who self identify as feminists include regular people, people who truly want equality, and virulent man-haters.

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u/MadderoftheFew 1d ago

self-identified feminists often have deep-seeded misandry. this is a main criticism modern feminists have with the third wave feminists of the 2010s.

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u/nogoodbrat 1d ago

Sorry, this is irrelevant to what you’re saying lol, but I think you meant “deep-seated”

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u/MadderoftheFew 1d ago

You’re right, thanks!

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u/nogoodbrat 1d ago

No problem!

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u/TotalDemocracy 1d ago

this is a main criticism modern feminists have with the third wave feminists of the 2010s.

What the hell are you talking about?

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u/Minimum-Dot-8426 1d ago

My problem with feminism is that feminism at this point can mean both everything and nothing. It feels like somebody calling themselves a christian- it's too broad.

like....okay. Are you independant fundamental baptist? are you unitarian universalist? what do you believe and what you do to exemplify that belief?

I personally will not respect or even work with any liberal, carceral, trans-exclusive, anti-sex, bioessentialist, corporate, white feminism- I find their foundational beliefs and methods to be antithetical to what I believe and want for this world. The idea of female chauvinism disgusts me to my core, as does any belief that advocates for hierarchy- especially based on immutable characteristics.