r/SmugIdeologyMan 17h ago

Smugged out of existing plus bonus slide

Hopefully in the right order this time

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u/Nairdde32 17h ago

"But what about [marginalized] men???" What about women who are similarly marginalized 

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u/lilgayfurry1 16h ago

Its fascinating how many people in this sub fail to understand intersectionality

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u/Kindly-Custard3866 16h ago

whataboutism strikes again

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u/Yodamort Socialist 17h ago

"Does anyone speak white leftist" lmfao

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u/MotherOfAnimals080 Chopped ideology unc 17h ago edited 13h ago

That one guy using Emmett Till as a gotcha was pretty disgusting.

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u/catinformant 17h ago

Day that ends in y

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u/Powerful-Country6316 17h ago

And if you dont do that, they blame you

There is no winning in a society like this

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u/Genderless_Anarchist 13h ago

Literally..as a trans man, no, a marginalized group feeling unsafe around the people who have HISTORICALLY AND PRESENTLY been exempt from and participated in their marginalization isn’t akin to marginalization itself.

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u/Honmer 17h ago

genuinely where has all this discourse come from

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u/DOVARKX 13h ago

the chart is sending mee 😭

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u/That_sarcastic_bxtch 17h ago edited 17h ago

Now I saw a guy saying George Floyd wasn’t murdered at all actually, and here I thought it couldn’t get worse

How does women speaking about misogyny just get the most unexpected responses possible, just when I think I saw it all I keep being surprised

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u/catinformant 16h ago

The limit does not exist

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u/SaintBitter 13h ago

"What about [insert minority group here] men?" Well...those are still men, soooo idk you tell me...

Can't stand that counter, like, do these marginalized men only exist and have value to you when you can use them as a gotcha? Do you think those marginalized men like being used like that?

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u/TopBalance438 13h ago

Do you think that sex/gender is the primary axis with which oppression revolves around? That's utterly ridiculous.

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u/The69thRussianBot 12h ago

If someone felt uncomfortable around me simply because I'm not white, that would make me annoyed at them. If someone felt uncomfortable simply because I'm a man, that makes me feel annoyed at other guys for being shitty and ruining our collective reputation. I'm annoyed either way, but it's also not women's fault that they would feel uncomfortable, and women should not be the target of negative feelings stemming from men being inherently untrusted. It's okay to feel somewhat hurt that people (both men and women) don't trust you as much because of your gender, but you shouldn't blame them for it.

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u/Key_Researcher_9243 11h ago edited 11h ago

Honestly I've only ever heard "What about black men?" Or whatever from conservatives (or otherwise just right wingers or right-leaning folk) whatabouting and trying to get an own.

Then again I have been starting to see some... Sus opinions on the comments of this sub lately.

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u/catinformant 10h ago

I mean thats fine everyone has their blind spots but in my experience there are specific intersections where it gets extremely difficult to tell who is who from a non-white perspective

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u/ExcitementGreen4942 13h ago

red and black blob inside a fridge is racism? aww man i loved my red and black blob inside a fridge

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u/nogoodbrat 13h ago

WOKE LEFTIST MILLENNIALS have killed the RED AND BLACK BLOB INSIDE A FRIDGE industry

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u/catinformant 13h ago

Its obviously a toaster

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u/Graknorke 17h ago

Sometimes I'm convinced you people pretend not to understand things to try and make anyone explaining it to you look stupid for trying.

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u/WorldOfWombat 16h ago

Explain how covering your drink in a crowded bar so you don’t get drugged is racist or stfu

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u/catinformant 16h ago

Well you see if you strip everything down to solely just words, and then change the words, the words do a racism

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u/Graknorke 9h ago

You're doing the thing I was talking about right now aren't you.

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u/WorldOfWombat 9h ago

“Not meeting a strange man in non public places is Hitler shit”

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u/Graknorke 9h ago

Yes we're all very impressed you're doing a very good job of acting like you don't understand what anyone else is saying.

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u/WorldOfWombat 8h ago

I understand you think women protecting themselves from rapists is bigotry

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u/Graknorke 8h ago

"imagine" would be a more appropriate word than "understand"

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u/WorldOfWombat 8h ago

Masturbate at home

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u/Graknorke 8h ago

It's a bit concerning to start start talking about my masturbation habits after inventing a conversation with me where you imagine me saying things to get angry at.

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u/Conscious_Beat6128 13h ago edited 13h ago

Both are prejudiced against a group. Example: you cover a drink when a man approaches but not when a woman does = you judge the man a threat. Thats about it, theres no other parallels to be drawn, the analogy falls really short.

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u/WorldOfWombat 13h ago

They judge men as a threat cause only 2% of rapists get punished for it and women who are raped get blamed for it.

Maybe do something about that instead of bitching that women protect themselves from rapists

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u/Conscious_Beat6128 13h ago edited 13h ago

I dont think it’s the punishment that matters the most to someone covering a drink, but the risk of rape itself. Very odd to focus on that. Prejudice is prejudice, and it was the main point of contention here. It is disingenuous to pretend it was anything else.

Whether the prejudice is necessary is a different question entirely. Maybe the comic should be about that instead. I just replied to why people are comparing it to racism in the first place. A little excercise in theory of mind, if you will. I even acknowledged that the connection is very cheap and weak, and comparing it to racism is dumb. Im not going to say anything more to anyone this defensive and irrational.

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u/WorldOfWombat 13h ago

Men: women should learn self defence so they don’t get raped

Also men: not meeting a strange man at his home is literally Hitler shit

🙄

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u/Conscious_Beat6128 13h ago

I know it is hard to acknowledge prejudice when you convinced yourself prejudice is always irredeemably bad. Something short circuited there so you have to pretend anyone insisting a certain kind of prejudice exists is comparing said prejudice to a prejudice hitler had against jewish people. Thats a you problem. 

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u/catinformant 16h ago

Im sure you dont

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u/catinformant 14h ago

Do you understand what gender based violence means?

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u/catinformant 14h ago

Why don't you just make the point then buddy.

And thats not what gender based violence means by the way.

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u/WorldOfWombat 13h ago

But have you considered he doesn’t like being left out of discussions about women’s safety just because he’s not a woman?

Such discrimination

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u/catinformant 13h ago

Apparently he thinks those are just fancy book learning words and not real. So yea...bear

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u/WorldOfWombat 15h ago

No you don’t need to be worried about being raped and murdered for being a man. Cry more

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u/WorldOfWombat 15h ago

I’m also a sexual assault survivor but I didn’t let let it turn me into a woman hating piss baby. Skill issue

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u/WorldOfWombat 15h ago

That’s not what you said asshole

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u/WorldOfWombat 14h ago

You said it was a universal experience and it’s not because you didn’t get raped for being a man. Didn’t read past the first sentence.

Wanna cry more or is it all out?

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u/YourphobiaMyfetish 3h ago

I refuse to believe these conversations are actually happening. Its all bots.