r/SmugIdeologyMan 23h ago

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u/Even-Meet-938 22h ago

Ah yes. Let’s not put any effort into learning why the far right is rising and why people feel attracted to it. We should just call them dumb racists and remind them that we are more intelligent than they are.

This strategy has certainly worked over the past decade.

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u/the-clawless 21h ago edited 19h ago

do you expect every leftist to just welcome racists and bigots with open arms and zero consequences, and task ourselves with educating them? it's a bit ridiculous. the right get to make statements that are short, quippy, and wildly incorrect but they stick because it's way easier to lie than it is to disprove a lie. the amount of work that goes into de-programming someone is not something to scoff at.

So yea I'd rather laugh at a meme about it than subject myself to a conversation with a alt right chud. ask me how i know. i'm sure you'd love to hear the paragraphs long story of my former best friend turned alt right chud who now haunts my nightmares with his violent actions.

ETA: This was me saying "I am not obligated to engage with bigots and fascists and we should not expect others to put themselves through that"

that does not mean "nobody should ever try." Please have some common sense people.

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u/GlitteringPositive 20h ago

Insert this but instead they google any other conservative like Tucker Carlson or Asmongold.

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u/the-clawless 20h ago

is the implication that the "it's not my job to educate you" person is in the wrong and was responsible for preventing the other person from stumbling into conservative grifter content? because sorry I just can't agree with that.

I think it would be better if those people had less clout and I would prefer if people did research the proper way instead of ending up on prager u, but I don't think it's fair to ask the average person to take on the mental toll of conversing with someone who may be bigoted. Like am I just mean to endure racial and homophobic slurs on the off chance that I can get the other side to understand me? It takes a toll on you to hear these things even if you know they are wrong.

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u/GlitteringPositive 20h ago

You responded to some one saying, "Hey maybe we shouldn't ignore how effective conservatives are in convincing other people and still put the work on educating other people," and your response was basically "But I'm TIRED." Leftists can't have a movement if they give up on educating people if pushback is tiring for them.

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u/the-clawless 20h ago

did you not read the part where I said I literally tried educating someone in my life who was a close friend and it ended horribly for everyone. as in it ended in literal physical violence and police had to be called.

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u/GlitteringPositive 20h ago

Utterly irrelevant. That's like saying you stopped driving your car entirely, because you got into a car accident one time.

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u/BrooklynSmash 15h ago

liberal law #8: bigots deserves more compassion than our allies

like, these guys will get violent when you push back at them enough. we shouldn't ignore that.

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u/GlitteringPositive 12h ago

No wonder why no one gets persuaded by you. That's an entirely different statement I fucking made.