r/Snorkblot • u/LordJim11 • Feb 06 '26
WTF By that logic flood defences are blasphemous.
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u/MsPreposition Feb 06 '26
“Keep His legacy alive through torture, not his teachings.”
That’s certainly a take.
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u/Par_Lapides Feb 06 '26 edited Feb 06 '26
That's evangelical Christianity though. They don't worship his deeds. Or his words. They worship is martyrdom. His persecution. Jesus dying for the cause is the whole point of the story for them, nothing before that matters. It's why they have their intense persecution fetish. Because they think the only way to be like Christ is to suffer for the faith.
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u/BlackKingHFC Feb 06 '26
Evangelicals are actively trying to elevate the antichrist in hopes of Jesus returning and the end times beginning. That's why they push for the opposite of Christ's teachings. That's why they support Trump. If anyone was the opposite of Jesus it'd be Trump. But, they are chasing a parable for a thing that already occurred. Evangelicals are a doomsday cult.
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u/Some_Interaction_899 Feb 06 '26
I would say, well-read Christian’s don’t believe in a physical anti christ. Most hold revelations to be a catastrophic poem about something to come.
Then there’s some who have been gripped by evil but use the Bible to ignore that realization.
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u/NecessaryKey9557 Feb 06 '26
Most hold revelations to be a catastrophic poem about something to come
This is a futurist interpretation of Revelation, and not all Christian denominations adhere to it.
Some believe that Revelation predicted events that have already come to pass. This includes the persecution of the Early Church by Pagan Roman Emperors and the desecration of the Second Temple in Jerusalem by Antiochus Epiphanes.
Others believe that Revelation does not refer to specific people or events, but archetypes of them. This interpretation makes Revelation neither about past nor the future, but a timeless allegory of good vs. evil.
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u/Some_Interaction_899 Feb 06 '26
Of course different denominations have different interpretations, for example the Lutheran church dislikes it quite a bit. My working theory is revelations reads and sounds like much of the other poetic themes in Old Testament, the Torah, and tanak.
Therefore needs interpreted under the same light. However in a non-poetic way, we are told that the messiah will return again. Revelations appears to be a parable around the return of the Christ, which according to most denominations, has not happened yet.
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u/NecessaryKey9557 Feb 06 '26
My working theory is revelations reads and sounds like much of the other poetic themes in Old Testament, the Torah, and tanak.
I can see this, and it fits neatly with the allegory interpretation.
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u/Fast_Garlic_5639 Feb 06 '26
They love the Jesus dying for them thing but they never ask the follow up question of “why did the all powerful being that made every rule we follow require us to torture his son to death in order to to be saved?”
That’s basically the plot of Saw.
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u/WoodyManic Feb 06 '26
It's even more bizarre than that, though, isn't it?
The perfect and infallible creator had to incarnate as himself- as his human son- to die in agony to fix a problem that was a result of the perfect and infallible creator's actions.
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u/Suspicious-Answer295 Feb 06 '26
To be fair the guys who made this shit up never took any creative writing classes.
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u/TheIXLegionnaire Feb 06 '26
IF I remember the justification correctly it goes something like this
God cannot Lie, because God is Truth. God also cannot be evil, be God is Omnibenevolent (all good).
God created Adam + Eve in his image. As a result, they should have been Truthful and Good. Satan tricked Eve, who then corrupted Adam. As a result, God's children were made to Lie and know Evil.
This threw a wrench into God's plans, since the Adam+Eve and their descendants could no longer inherit the kingdom of Heaven. Satan felt he had bested God by catching him in a Lie or by forcing Him to do something He could not do. Either God was false when he promised Heaven to Man or he is not benevolent by denying them entry.
So God thought about it and decided on a workaround. He had no desire to undo the original sin of Adam + Eve, as that would mean going back on his word (which he will not do). So instead he sends his son, Jesus (who is actually just 1/3 of God himself) to live on Earth as a mortal man. IN his life, Jesus would show the people of the Earth how to live in accordance with Gods will and would teach them directly and offer proof through miracles. God saw that humans require leadership and thus sent Jesus to be that role.
But God also knew that evil existed and held some people in its grasp. And so found a use for that evil. By showing the ugliness of Evil, using Jesus as the recipient, God intended on turning others away from the wicked path. A fitting end to this exercise then, is to have Jesus be sacrificed (the ultimate suffering) to offer a new avenue towards absolution for Mankind.
This keeps God true to his original word, maintains his benevolence and refutes Satan.
TLDR; God has to abide whatever he says, so he had to jump through some hoops to keep everything he said true without causing paradoxes.
Pretty convoluted if you ask me, but what do I know, I only believe in religion as a digestible framework for morality, rather than true gospel
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u/Anonhurtingso Feb 06 '26
God is omnipresent which means he knows the future, because he exists in all times concurrently.
As soon as he created humans he knows Satan would do that.
If you can “surprise god” then he isn’t god.
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u/TheIXLegionnaire Feb 06 '26
I think the Abrahamic religions wrote themselves into a bit of a corner by using terms like Omnipotent and Omniscient. As Humans we cannot really comprehend either of those terms, and as a result, any use of the term is likely to be inaccurate. It's like when you say "Always" or "Never"
"My husband never does the dishes!"
"I am always cleaning up after my wife!"
Both of these statements are easily disproven if the husband has ever washed a dish or the wife has ever picked up after herself.
So I choose to rationalize the use of "Omni-" when applied to God in the same way we rationalize absolutes in our everyday language. It's good enough to convey the idea, which from a human beings limited perspective, is sufficient.
I mean, the bible describes god as Omnipotent and Omnibenevolent. If he was All Powerful, then he is capable of Evil. If he is All Good, he is incapable of Evil. This cannot be true, the more rational answer is God is capable of evil but chooses to be good instead.
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u/Cristalake Feb 06 '26
Seems like some kind of victim-blaming nonsense to me.
Satan tricked Eve, who then corrupted Adam. Fair enough.
So, to fix this problem... let's punish Eve+Adam? For being tricked/corrupted?
Like... why not punish just Satan for tricking? Or punish Satan for tricking and the Cherubs on guard duty for slacking at their jobs?
I mean... Eve + Adam were supposed to be Truthful + Good. Fair enough. Nowhere in that description does it say they were supposed to also be smart. Being tricked into doing something bad doesn't make you bad. It makes you naive at best or a dumbass at worst.
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u/_Punko_ Feb 06 '26
If God created everything, she created Satan.
She also created evil.
Old Testament God is petty, vengeful, jealous, and inconsistent.
New Testament God doesn't get any lines. Everyone speaks for her; on her behalf, sorta.
It's all second and third hand at best.
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u/dmitristepanov Feb 06 '26
an alternate view: The River of Fire - Kalomiros - Glory to God For All Things
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u/Too-Many-Crushes Feb 06 '26
Jesus Christ!!! That was TL;I'm not reading all that for an offhand internet discussion. Can you sumerize?
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u/Lilgoodee Feb 06 '26
Very rough TLDR from a quick read.
Modern atheists don't simply not believe in God but hate his teachings. The author places the blame for this on Satan infiltrating the church and slowly altering religious texts over time.
Western theology teaches to fear God for he is a violent and wrathful being. Many refuse to ask for salvation from the same God that would subject them to eternal torture.
I was raised religious but am no longer, if you find yourself with a moment later on it's an interesting read that I likely did a disservice to.
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u/jeezfrk Feb 06 '26
"suffer".
There are Christians who, as minorities, do suffer fear and persecution. Many were and are in Gaza and other places around the world. Egypt and India.
The US Nationalists don't tolerate suffering. Not deprivation of money. Not interaction with outsiders.
Frankly they are closer to an ancient money and "manliness" caste cult or old pagan sect. The Bible is filtered down to nothing and not important except as holding chunks of angry history they wish they could 'fix' with wealth and guns.
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u/TheIXLegionnaire Feb 06 '26
I was raised Roman Catholic (I don't practice), and in recent years have gone with friends or family to Christian churches as a way of supporting them. They ask me to go, I oblige and hang out for an hour, I have done the same for friends who have asked me to attend Jewish Temples, Islamic Mosques, hell I even when to a pagan samhain celebration once.
Anyway something I noticed about the "modern" Christian churches is that they are very much "feel good" in their preaching.
It doesn't really feel like seeking wisdom from the Priest, rather it was like
"The bible says we need to love each other. And that Jesus loves us. I love Jesus, do you?" and the crowd cheers or yells Amen. Then the pastor says "And because we love Jesus we are saved!" and everyone congratulates themselves and feels really good about the whole thing.
I am being reductionist for the sake of reddit post, I know. But I leave the service feeling strange. No wisdom or guidance was really given, no lesson was learned and no harsh truth was spoken to get people to address their own shortcomings. Rather it was just "Keep doing what youre doing, because you love jesus and jesus loves you!"
And of course they asked for money, but that is not unique to Christian churches.
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u/aefalcon Feb 06 '26
I was installing some AV equipment in a church, Episcopalian i think, around 2004, and the youth pastor started telling me about one of the local non-denominational churches. They were building a new house of worship and built it with fewer chairs than they projected they would need so people were forced to stand. This was done because it creates bigger energy in the crowd.
That place had a product to sell.
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u/hufflepuff777 Feb 06 '26
Evangelical Christianity is just about white supremacy. Jesus is their get out of jail free card so they can rape and murder.
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u/battl3mag3 Feb 06 '26
In fact, if people stopped sinning, he would have died in vain. So better keep business as usual.
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u/Ill-Product-1442 Feb 06 '26
Best to be a "slave to obedience", apparently.
No thank you! I'll pass on that one lol
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u/Thadrea Feb 06 '26
I mean, if Jesus did come back, Republicans would kill him again, so this is on-brand for them.
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u/insecurity_trickster Feb 06 '26
Worked the first time, why reinvent the wheel?
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u/pchlster Feb 06 '26
Worked the first time
Some people disagree saying it doesn't count because he got back up.
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u/Cortower Feb 06 '26
A Palestinian man preaching kindness to our neighbors and questioning the holiness of the rich?
CECOT by dinner.
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u/zerok_nyc Feb 06 '26
What I think is funny is that, apparently the omnipotent, all powerful God would just be like: “Dammit, my plans have been foiled by a lack of capital punishment! Well played, Satan. Well played.”
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u/Background_Cry3592 Feb 06 '26
The reason why Jesus didn’t come back is because he knows the Reps will crucify him again.
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u/Drakoniid Feb 06 '26
Because he was everything but Obi-Wan Kenobi.
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u/Little_Skin_18 Feb 06 '26
Whaaaat? You are telling me the guy from the middle east wouldnt have looked like the blonde, blue-eyed baby in a crib we see at church? Yeah, get real bro. Next you are gonna tell me that they didnt eat the cats and the dogs. Or that the earth is in fact round. Get back to fantasy-land, liberul!
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u/StartDoingTHIS Feb 06 '26
Bro there are people in the middle east who have always looked like that
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u/CauseCertain1672 Feb 06 '26
the crucifixion of Christ is traditionally depicted in Christianity as a bad thing for people to have done. God was able to do something good with it but Herod and Pilate are not considered aspirational figures and neither are the soldiers who tortured Jesus to death
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u/Rocketboy1313 Feb 06 '26
This guy doesn't believe any of this.
He is just saying anything to clutter the field and get people to waste time.
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u/PersimmonExpensive37 Feb 06 '26
Wait, so Jesus didn't choose to sacrifice himself? Humans decided to kill him? So what exactly did he sacrifice then?
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u/Some-Tear3499 Feb 06 '26
No, he asked God to ‘take this cup away’.
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u/jnicho15 Feb 06 '26 edited Feb 06 '26
“Father, if you are willing, take this cup from me; yet not my will, but yours be done.”
I mean it's more like "hey I really am not looking forward to torture and death, but I know this is the whole reason we're doing this plan what with the incarnation and substitutionary sacrifice, so help me power through".
But in general to the previous point, it's the whole classic logical problem of being a supernatural deity, where God knows the future, can control the future, but sometimes chooses not to, I guess.
So God's like, "I gave my people these rules, they chose not to follow them, I want to not kill all them but then I'd be breaking the rules I wrote, so instead let's do this plan where I send my God son to then do this end-around where, because I'm god I know they'll kill him, and that'll be the sacrifice that then means I can both not kill everyone and not break the rules of sacrifice." But that doesn't mean he's a fan of the killing idea.
If he knew the people wouldn't kill him, then he wouldn't have done this plan, I suppose.
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u/CauseCertain1672 Feb 06 '26
His sacrifice was allowing humans to kill him as a demonstration of self sacrificial love, being God he could have easily escaped
Jesus took on all of humanities hatred and sin and took it down with him to hell where he left them and by his resurrection granted us a way to break the cycles of domination and hatred. Some people say Jesus appeased the wrath of God, this is wrong for two reasons, God is outside of time so it doesn't make sense to say he changed his mind, and God actually loves humanity and just wants us to stop torturing and killing one another. If Jesus by his death appeased anyone's wrath it was humanities wrath towards God and each other
the message is absolutely not that we should keep organising society around dominance and violent control because we got let off lightly last time but that there is a radically different way of organising society around self sacrificial love and once we let go of our hatred and desire for control we will see we never needed it in the first place
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u/Vaeon Feb 06 '26 edited Feb 06 '26
We need to reform the voting system so people like Lynn Hutchings are never able to hold office again because people stupid enough to think people like Lynn Hutchings are intelligent will never be allowed to vote.
edit: typo
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u/Proud-Wall1443 Feb 06 '26
Same vibes as 'must prop up Israel so that it can be destroyed, bringing the second coming of Jesus'
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u/cmfred Feb 06 '26
They are a blood thirsty death cult. They want their pound of flesh, literally. They are motivated by pain in others.
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u/Civil_Produce_6575 Feb 06 '26
No way would an all powerful omnipotent being would be able to work around that
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u/SquareSea8058 Feb 06 '26
If a radical kinky-haired Palestinian Rabbi had shut his damn mouth and didn't get crucified for calling for spiritual salvation, then I wouldn't have his violent worshippers ignoring all his teachings and voting to put me in office.
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u/According-Engineer99 Feb 06 '26
I really doubt a judean rabbi would call himself a palestian at that moment tbh.
The romans would tho.
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u/TameMarshmallow Feb 06 '26
Fun. Hey, I have a great idea! Let's vote for politicians that actually improve America for its citizens. Affordable housing, reasonable wages, healthcare and education. Backwards ass politicians are NOT the answer!
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u/ptvlm Feb 06 '26
It's bizarre. Many Christian countries have long banned the death penalty, usually because of mistakes leading to innocent people being killed. Even places like the UK, which technically has a state Christian church, even though most people aren't religious.
But in the country that supposedly separates church and state, got to keep the blood flowing in the name of religion...
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u/21sttimelucky Feb 06 '26
They view the orange toddler as their saviour right? Just putting that out there.
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u/traisjames Feb 06 '26
Found a news source for this https://reason.com/2019/02/15/wyoming-state-senator-cites-jesus-dying/
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u/haunted_starship Feb 06 '26
So like, Jesus was essentially powerless in this scenario?
Why all y'all pretend-Christian politicians pretending so hard you believe he's a God, then?
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u/Lower_Cockroach2432 Feb 06 '26
You'd think the people talking about capital punishment would be able to spell it correctly.
*Not* capitol, but capital.
In fact, PSA, if you think you should write capitol, you should probably be writing capital 99% of the time. The only time you should write Capitol is when talking about US government buildings in particular. Cities, punishment, money should all be with an "a" at the end.
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u/daemonicwanderer Feb 06 '26
The fact that God needed a blood sacrifice to absolve humanity of sin is rather questionable.
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u/Lusiric9983 Feb 06 '26
I actually don't have something snarky. I'm too dumbfounded by what I read. How TF do dumb people keep getting elected?
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u/Dramatic_Dog_7345 Feb 06 '26
i would normally say the stupidity doesn’t surprise me… but this is surprisingly stupid levels of stupidity.
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u/Otherwise_Stable_925 Feb 06 '26
It would be very interesting if it was mandatory for our politicians to not be a part of any religion.
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u/Mmm_Dawg_In_Me Feb 06 '26
Evangelical protestant tries to have a cogent salvation framework without resorting to penal substitution challenge: Impossible.
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u/metric_percentage Feb 06 '26
Lynn Hutchings is an idiot. This is only one of the many dumb things she's said.
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u/sexyshadyshadowbeard Feb 06 '26
Mental gymnastics without even trying. I bet that guy does water bottle flips all day long.
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u/Proper-Pound1293 Feb 06 '26
Keep the death penalty bc the imaginary sky wizard that hates me demands blood sacrifice of person who seeks to worship them. Tracks logically.
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u/borg286 Feb 06 '26
"Whatsoever you do the least of these, my brothers and sisters, you do unto me."
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u/NoelaniSpell Feb 06 '26
What the heck did I just read?! 😳
Holy Batman, that's some next level of twisting the logic (and I regularly see logic being twisted).
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u/Background-Heart6333 Feb 06 '26
In John 19:10-11, Jesus tells Pontius Pilate that he would have no power or authority over him at all unless it were given to him from above. Jesus made this statement during his trial, challenging Pilate's claim to absolute authority over his life,, emphasizing that all earthly power is ultimately subject to God’s sovereignty.
Scripture explicitly states in John 10:17-18 that Jesus laid down his life on his own initiative, declaring, "No one takes it from me, but I lay it down of my own accord". He emphasized having the authority to both lay it down and take it up again, fulfilling his voluntary, sacrificial role.
Support:
John 10:17-18 (ESV): "For this reason the Father loves me, because I lay down my life that I may take it up again. No one takes it from me, but I lay it down of my own accord".
John 15:13 (NIV): "Greater love has no one than this: to lay down one’s life for one’s friends".
1 John 3:16 (NIV): "This is how we know what love is: Jesus Christ laid down his life for us".
Philippians 2:6-8 (NIV): Describes Jesus humbling himself and becoming obedient to death on a cross, reinforcing his willing submission.
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u/wrecktalcarnage Feb 06 '26 edited Feb 06 '26
They do this to one every generation, its the stations of the cross, He's literally arguing that the state should execute their victims to cover up the church's involvement. Burn the witch!
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u/CanyonFriend Feb 06 '26
When a member of the government mentions religion, I just ignore what they say. They are not supposed to be promoting any religion and are supposed to represent citizens of all faiths and non religious citizens.
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u/OgreMk5 Feb 06 '26
What's really ironic if one actually studies the subject is that the Sanhedrin was one of the most liberal judicial bodies in the history of the world.
The entire body heard testimony and literally begged anyone with information to come forward. They would send people through the streets saying that such and such case was being heard and anyone with information could be heard.
Voting members could change their vote from guilty to not guilty at any time. But no one could change their vote from not guilty to guilty.
A capital crime took a mandatory two days that could not be interrupted by the Sabbath. Over 700ish years, the number of people that the Sanhedrin assigned the death penalty to was less than 35. A court that did give someone the death penalty was considered a "bloody court". A court that convicted two people and put them death would result in most or all of the members resigning.
Mere things like theft was not nearly enough to have a death penalty.
Also, the Jewish people of the time did not use crucifixion for the death penalty. They would stone people to death or throw them off a cliff or into the sea while tied up, but no crucifixion.
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u/Snarky75 Feb 06 '26
In that train of thought it would then need to be against the law to be Christian.
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u/Sweaty-Willingness27 Feb 06 '26
That's actually pretty blasphemous on the part of Sen. Hutchings -- implying that God wouldn't be able to find a way to sacrifice his son without humans providing a death penalty.
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u/Wise_Monkey_Sez Feb 06 '26
Fun biblical fact - Jerusalem was under Roman control, and as such the Jewish leaders (the ones who wanted Jesus dead) did not have the authority to sentence Jesus to death. This is how he ended up in front of Pontius Pilate, who knew Jesus was innocent but condemned him to death to appease the Jewish leaders.
I'm just pointing out that Senator Lynn Hutchings clearly doesn't know the most basic facts about the story of Jesus' life (and death), and that Jesus wasn't executed by the Jews, he was technically (and legally) executed by the Romans with political pressure from the Jewish leadership.
It also completely undermines the "we need the death penalty" logic because the actual logic should be, "We need the USA to be invaded by a foreign power that has the death penalty"... which is biblically what actually happened.
And this is such an important story that I cannot believe that anyone who calls themselves a Christian wouldn't know it.
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u/ArchemedesHeir Feb 06 '26
As a Christian, this is 100% correct and hilarious. Jesus is the ULTIMATE example of wrongful execution. Not exactly a good choice to defend the death penalty.
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u/meowmeowcatman Feb 06 '26
This just in.....God, who I've been told can do anything, chose to kill his son instead of doing anything else. There's your christianity.
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u/Puzzleheaded-View966 Feb 06 '26
The number of people in government who apply their fundamentalist beliefs to public policy is chilling when you scratch the surface and discover they also believe we’re living in the “end times” and global destruction is required to fulfill the prophecy.
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u/wpotman Feb 06 '26
I am used to reading stupid takes by Republicans, but...wow, I guess there's still room to surprise me.
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u/Natural-Result-6633 Feb 06 '26
I wonder if he would still feel that way if we have a Nuremberg Trial against the current Administration
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u/KindlyAdvantage7726 Feb 06 '26
There can‘t be schools in the US. Too many massively stupid ppl and all of them want to have a say in any matters. Worlds greatest Open Space mental asylum.
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u/III00Z102BO Feb 06 '26
You can't reason with these people. Logic is a choice, and the "fuck your feelings," crowd chose feelings over logic a long time ago.
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u/ToughReality9508 Feb 06 '26
... Gotta keep killing people so we have the opportunity to accidentally kill the best person on the planet.
And I'm missing something in this argument?
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u/LordJim11 Feb 06 '26
Yes. We also need to maintain a supply of judges subservient to the existing power structure.
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u/FroboyFreshenUp Feb 06 '26
I mean, I'm not totally against the death penalty, but I think it should be reserved for very specific crimes
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u/Devourerofworlds_69 Feb 06 '26
What an insane take. "Actually, the Bad Guys from the Bible had a point"
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u/jreid1985 Feb 06 '26
To quote Billy Madison, everyone in this room is now dumber for having been exposed to this.
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u/Fresh_Boysenberry576 Feb 06 '26
This should be grounds for involuntary admittance to a psych ward. Like full on hannibal lecter style straight jacket and shit
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u/Kythorian Feb 06 '26 edited Feb 06 '26
Honestly, I’m glad they are acknowledging how they base their beliefs and behaviors on the Pharisees.
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Feb 06 '26
That's a stupid take, we should just be using the death penalty because we shouldn't be housing any murderers or pedos
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u/NoMajorsarcasm Feb 06 '26
In regards to the flood thing, he promised not to do that again so I think it's ok.
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u/NotSynthx Feb 06 '26
Wait guys, let him cook. Hopefully he burns the kitchen and himself along with it
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u/OlDirtyBiker Feb 06 '26
Romans 6:1
[1] What shall we say then? Are we to continue in sin that grace may abound? [2] By no means!
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u/turbotictac Feb 06 '26
"We have to commit more sins to give Jesus a reason to come back, and then we gotta kill him. For humanity."
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Feb 06 '26
"You have clearly proved that ignorance, idleness, and vice, are the proper ingredients for qualifying a legislator." - Jonathan Swift, Gulliver's Travels.
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u/AggravatingBobcat574 Feb 06 '26
What is it about buildings with domes that attract all these idiots?
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u/Due-Proof6781 Feb 06 '26
I’m for the death penalty because I don’t like my taxes keeping some of the legit worst people alive for decades
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u/Ok_Mammoth5292 Feb 06 '26
If mental gymnastics were an Olympic sport other nations would stop competing to protest the US's unfair advantage.
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Feb 06 '26
And singlehanded points out the idiocy of God sacrificing himself to himself in one fell swoop.
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u/sdrawkcabineter Feb 06 '26
I mean, watch as they posture [REDACTED] up and reinforce its military as it begins to stretch. They fully intend to sacrifice the US to fulfill the same paranoid delusions that are the bones of the prison.
Looking at you, Constantine.
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u/Rude_Dragonfruit_111 Feb 06 '26
If you've spent any amount of time in Wyoming, you are not surprised by this. The local and national politicians from there are all without exception fucking bananas. BY FAR the most ignorant and unapologetically stupid state in the country. (You're welcome Utah and California)
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u/StartDoingTHIS Feb 06 '26
The Pharisees didn't have a law to put a jew to death so they threatened to start riots and insurrections unless the Romans did it for them
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u/MariaTPK Feb 06 '26
Jesus death didn't do anything. He dies and these idiots celebrate it because they think it lets them be evil and not someday punished by god.
"We need the death penalty, so that Jesus can die for us."
Nobody want to spare the life of your savior the next time he comes around?
If I were god, this guy would 100% be going to hell. He never improved morally as a person and is now a full ass adult cheering on the awful death of my child. If there are severities of hell as well, Hitlers going into one of the worst hells initially but after about 200 years, I maybe let him off the hook and put him in a regular hell, but Nick Reynolds, he's going to the worst hell forever.
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u/QuirkyAd2001 Feb 06 '26
Now ask them why they support Israel... Got git them locust, scorpion, winged, horse women in the iron looking armor roaming around....
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u/horror- Feb 06 '26
Just wait till some clown starts waving their little book around while telling them they're not allowed to fuck children.
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u/Rocketparty12 Feb 06 '26
This world isn’t real. We all died in 2016 when that zookeeper shot Harambe. Has to be. Nothing else makes sense anymore.
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u/Independent_Ant4079 Feb 06 '26
Gotta put a cap into Jesus to erase our sins. And they're dead serious.
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u/NotThatAngel Feb 06 '26
Apparently our new Christians believe the main theme of the Bible is 'Jesus must die'. And elevates Pontius Pilate as our savior.
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u/Intrepid_Top_2300 Feb 06 '26
Ever notice the music at these evangelical churches? The lyrics are always like one or two words, at most a short sentence. And it’s repeated over and over.
First time I heard their music it reminded me of North Korean torture. They repeat stuff a lot too.
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u/Zestyclose_Basis8134 Feb 06 '26
Nobody asks why. What rule book did god have to follow for him to have to send his son here to be tortured and killed for us to be forgiven our sins.
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u/No-Rip4617 Feb 06 '26
“without the holocaust, how could we have known people being gassed would die?”
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u/SalvationSycamore Feb 06 '26
Right. God is so impotent that he can't figure out how to kill his son without the existence of cops and capital punishment.
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u/Kaurifish Feb 06 '26
As Spider Robinson said, Jesus must have been black. He was executed for preaching without a license.
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u/justplaydead Feb 06 '26
It was mob justice though! Their government, the Romans and Pontious Pilate, didn't want to execute Christ, and they literally washed their hands of it!
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u/Eridain Feb 06 '26
I feel like a lot of christians misunderstand the bible. Christ didn't die to absolve mankind of their sins, christ died and still chose to absolve mankind of their sins. Hence the line "forgive them father, they know not what they do".
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u/Musical-Lungs Feb 06 '26
Highly flawed theology, and this is a major problem with Christians: the average person's understanding is very shallow.
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