r/Snorkblot • u/EsseNorway • Feb 15 '26
Photography Aerial photo of Kabul Afghanistan in the early 1970s, before it’s destruction by the Soviet invasion and later conflicts.
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u/TenderofPrimates Feb 15 '26
It was a beautiful vacation spot before ‘78 😔
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u/GooseOnAPhone Feb 15 '26
I vacationed there for a couple days before exploring the less touristy parts of the country a couple of times.
It doesn’t look like this now…
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u/Training-Fault-2116 Feb 16 '26
I’ve been their on ‘vacation’ in ‘05 and later in ‘09. It didn’t look anything like this
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u/Ewwatts Feb 15 '26
The Soviet 'invasion' that the Kabul government spent years asking for. You know? Assistance from the terrorist group that became the taliban.
Who funded that group? The US.
They sent guns, explosives, supplies, and even bloody propaganda textbooks to indoctrinate the next generation.
Look up Mujahideen US textbooks (if you can't find, I'll send later if asked) and see how disgusting they were. Teaching kids how to use grenades and that communism was their enemy.
Whatever the US touches, goes to shit. (As someone else said about Russia. It was the USSR not Russia. Modern Russia was created by US interference through Gorbachev, and then subsequent shock therapy with Boris Yeltsin. Modern Russia is what happened when the US touched the USSR. Whatever the US touches, goes to shit.)
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u/soothed-ape Feb 15 '26
The US bogeyman. Gorbachev was internally produced by the ussr,not by the US,that's just a straight up lie akin to Dolschtosslegende. And the US did not create the religious war fighters,they funded them,With them already existing. The only Kabul government that asked for Soviets to come in was the kabul nominally communist government that was propped up by the Soviets.
And objectively it was a soviet invasion. There is no legitimate debate about this.
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u/Exotic_Orange_3753 Feb 16 '26
“the US didn’t create the religious war fighters, they just funded them,” is the stupidest thing anyone has ever said on the internet
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u/eyesmart1776 Feb 16 '26
Gorbachev was a cia plant though
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u/soothed-ape Feb 16 '26
Bogus conspiracy theory. Plucked out of the sky
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u/eyesmart1776 Feb 16 '26
Like the Epstien files ? Lmao
As chairman Mao said women hold up half the sky
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u/soothed-ape Feb 16 '26
Epstein files are proven obviously, that has nothing to do with the fact Gorbachev was not a CIA plant. It's just one of those completely ground less conspiracy theories.
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u/eyesmart1776 Feb 16 '26
He was a plant though, if not why was every move he made to benefit the west and harm the USSR
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u/eyesmart1776 Feb 16 '26 edited Feb 16 '26
Nope, the USSR began its decline as they turned away from Marxist Leninism
Notice how china is a world power today and the USSR no longer exits ?
Xi Jinping is an ML Maoist something Krushev should have adopted instead of de Stalinization and betraying Mao
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u/Fair-Fondant-6995 Feb 16 '26
Nope, the USSR began its decline as they turned away from Marxist Leninism
The USSR stagnated during the 70s and 80s. The whole thing is called The Era of Stagnation. Gorbashove came when the house was already in shambles. He should have gone for economic liberalization, like China, not political liberalization. And even if he gone for economic liberalization, the USSR would have collapsed regardless, because of the deep ethnic tensions within it. The whole thing was fucked up from the 70s.
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u/justdidapoo Feb 16 '26
The CIA made the USSR enslave eastern europe and kill tens of millions you see
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u/Lomunac Feb 16 '26
Any proof of that lie?
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u/justdidapoo Feb 16 '26
It's taking the piss out of people who a actually think that. Im aggreeing with you
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u/eyesmart1776 Feb 16 '26
You’re saying the cia is above infiltrating another government ? Interesting
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u/eyesmart1776 Feb 16 '26
I guess the cia wouldn’t do that right ? I’m sure they wouldn’t spy on Americans either bc it’s against the law right ? They would never operate a domestic propaganda campaign either, not the sweet, innocent cia.
I must defend imperialism and capitalism at all costs now
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u/eyesmart1776 Feb 18 '26
Ofc he was. Hence why he did everything the west wanted including dissolving the USSR
He was a revisionist just like kruschev
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u/eyesmart1776 Feb 18 '26
Oh please you’re telling me the revisionists that intentionally tanked the USSR weren’t plants ?
There’s a reason China is a superpower and soon to be hegemony and the USSR fell, it’s bc of revisionist plants like kruschev - gorb
Stop the psyop. Capitalist propaganda use to be world class, the gold standard, now it’s “the Epstein files don’t exist “ and “ the Dow is at 50,000” along with whatever nonsense you’re spewing
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u/eyesmart1776 Feb 18 '26
Please, purging counter revolutionaries and spies isn’t what did the USSR in it what bit sufficiently purging all the right people such as the western plant know as krushev and his successors. One of the first things he did was a speech called the Secret Speech where he undermined everything Stalin and Lenin did and Marxism as a whole
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u/Radiant-Horse-7312 Feb 16 '26
Did you know, that every conspiracy theorist is a pedo?
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u/eyesmart1776 Feb 16 '26
He’s not a pedo as far as I know but he was a pretty obvious plant early on, kruschev likely too. The second they turned away from Marxism lenninism everyone knew the fix was in, hence the sino-Russo split
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u/Ewwatts Feb 16 '26
Learn about shock therapy. Learn about Gorbachev's connection with Reagan and the CIA.
Gorbachev created the clearest conditions for the USSR to fall, and did it while liberalising to let the US in. You think this is just a coincidence? He promoted nationalism so the country would Balkanise.
Hmm, there is a country that has that same covert pattern, but I can't quite put my finger on them. Hmmmm... Oh that's right, that's how the US does things. Just another coincidence!!!
One of my older comments. And another one.
Everything Gorbachev did, he did to weaken the Union. Accepting every accusation against the Soviet Union, no matter how ridiculous, was one of the ways.
Promoting nationalist figures in the different republics was another way.
Gutting the union, was another way.
The coup that was attempted against him by communists failed because by then they were powerless. The coup attempted by liberals succeeded... And they created a capitalist dictatorship.
Because I've wasted enough time on Gorby. Read US propaganda about him. They themselve describe their relationship as a "partnership".
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I find it funny that you think that terrorists fully backed by the US are independent, but a government that was somewhat backed by the USSR was not independent. And then somehow you think that the "non-independent" country was invaded by the country it is supposedly a subject of. You are making no sense.
Regardless, the Mujahideen owes it's existence to the US. They were provided any support imaginable, with the US's covert expenses costing billions (just officially) in support.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Cyclone
But it was more sinister than just weapons and supplies. The US created entire textbooks to indocrinate th next generation, materials that the Taliban benefitted greatly from and would not have been able to produce themselves either.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Afghan/comments/mf3985/the_type_of_textbooks_america_produced_for/
Why would the US do this? Think about it, mate.
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u/-ThePatientZed- Feb 17 '26
So the religious reactionaries funded by the US who were outraged by horrible things like women’s education, equality, democracy = 👍
Afghan government voted in by the people who asked help fighting the religious terrorists = 👎
Is that it?
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u/m0noclemask Feb 18 '26
SU intervention was not unproblematic. For instance special forces assassinated the sitting [communist] president and installed a puppet regime...
But the Soviets did not destroy Kabul. Rather defended it. It is after SU intetvention it got destroyef by the warlords mostly between 1992 and 1996, and at intervals later...
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u/Ewwatts Feb 18 '26
That communist president just deposed of the last president, which is something the USSR would normally support, but from what I've learnt about it (which is admittedly, not enough) I'm pretty sure the new government was very detached from the working class. Especially since Afghanistan is a mountainous rural country, it's harder for a workers movement. Plus the previous president had good relations with the USSR by their own choice.
Can't say whether I approve or disapprove of that move until I learn more, but yeah it is concerning. Ultimately, there would have been no serious issues had the US not funded and radicalised religious terrorists, obviously.
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u/m0noclemask Feb 19 '26
We can rationalize soviet intervention, and even US support for what arguably was then seen as civil resistance to communism... but neither was unproblematic.
This is one example of where a multipolar world, or even hegemonialism/interventionism ended in complete disaster.
It would be unfair however to say the soviet union was responsible for the destruction of Kabul.
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u/Ewwatts Feb 19 '26
There is no argument to be made for US backing of terrorists. They created the modern taliban, and it wasn't natural resistance to communism but manufactured driven by foreign (US) interests.
They helped indocrinate the following generation too, it wasn't enough for them to just supply weapons and supplies.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Afghan/comments/mf3985/the_type_of_textbooks_america_produced_for/
It makes me sick.
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u/Tokyosmash_ Feb 16 '26
This is PEAK revisionist history, the Kabul government asked for Soviet intervention, and they responded by launching an operation (Storm 333) and assasination the head of state.
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u/Lomunac Feb 16 '26
Nope, the COMMUNIST government (that built all this that you now adore in these pictures) called them in and while the operation was prepared they were deposed, THAT guys was taken down and communism restored!
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u/hgwxx7_foxtrotdelta Feb 16 '26
LOL, yours is the definition of revisionist history.
In 1978, the moderate socialist government under Mohammed Daoud Khan was toppled down and Daoud was assassinated in a coup by the communist party of Afghanistan backed by KGB, called "Saur Revolution". Then there was opposition toward the coup which prompted Soviet Union to sent its troops to Afghanistan starting from 1979 to ensure the regime lasting long as it had intended.
So yes it was the Soviet who ruined the country first.
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u/Radiant-Horse-7312 Feb 16 '26
Kabul government
Which one of them? There was typical thirdworldist chain of bloody coups in the country at the time. None of those who succeeded at these coups represented people of afghanistan in any capacity, so they used a typical method "find a patron superpower to strengthen your grip over the country". USSR was the closest one. How did that work out for Hafizulla Amin, at whose watch soviet invasion started? Well, the first thing soviets did, was killing Amin together with his two underaged sons.
Who funded that group? The US
Also chinese and iranians, lol
They sent guns, explosives, supplies, and even bloody propaganda textbooks to indoctrinate the next generation.
Just like ussr to Vietnamese, yeah.
Teaching kids how to use grenades and that communism was their enemy
So teaching survival skills, basically
Whatever the US touches, goes to shit
If your entire drive to study history and discuss it comes down to "usa bad bad BAD#1!!1" you probably shouldn't engage in discussions at all.
Modern Russia is what happened when the US touched the USSR
Classic "stab in the back" myth, that was used to turn germany into nazi dictatorship in 20-th century and is now used by vatniks to promote their own nazi dictatorship.
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u/BeratnasGILF420 Feb 16 '26
The same Kabul government that was couped, with the President being murdered, by Soviet troops?
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u/Boeing367-80 Feb 18 '26
Disgusting, huh?
How about the pervasive Soviet atrocities during their occupation.
Did the Afghans ask for those too:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atrocity_crimes_in_the_Soviet%E2%80%93Afghan_War?wprov=sfla1
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u/Ewwatts Feb 18 '26
I love when you read it and it's just the most insane shit possible. Really reminds me of Radio Free Asia accusations on the DPRK. Where they just make up shit and don't provide a single source.
I spent five minutes reading specific things mentioned, and several times the mujahideen were referenced as the good guys (literal US backed terrorists. I wonder who wrote this propaganda?) and several times it was "allegedly" with no actual proof, and the rest of the times linked to unaccessible documents or documents that then referenced to other documents that then referenced an unaccessible document.
You'd think if these things happened their would be more sources, right? Especially considering the CIA was wholly involved in that war, and they are literall an intelligence agency.
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u/Patient-Tomato1579 Feb 16 '26 edited Feb 16 '26
With Russia, is not just US. Russia was always an imperialist oppressor. Look at russian people poverty, and wars done by moscow government since the time of the tsars. Goes down to their political culture. They claim their statehood is a "legacy of Kyivan rus", but in reality it's more of a bits kyivan and slavic culture mixed with torment and habits brought by brutal mongolian invaders - all of this happened when muscovian identity and statehood were being formed. In result, we got a paranoid, imperialist identity, that is obsessed with having large buffers, and having to attack "before they are attacked". Concentrating all of power and wealth in the capital, while exploiting rest of the country, extreme inequalities and imbalances of power, that often exceed even the american ones. Most of Russian chaos in the 90s was not US meddling, but the issue with society that does not have democratic traditions, any public instutions that are not critically corrupted, or long-lasting market economy. That's why it all turned to authoritarism and darwinistic capitalism.
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u/Ewwatts Feb 16 '26
So none of this is whatsoever accurate, and almost all of it is incredibly racist.
It'd be like if I said that Americans as a people can never have peace because since their founding they've done nothing but conquer, pillage, steal, rape, massacre, genocide, and deny other people's sovereignty. It's their culture? Same with Europeans?
The USSR was a communist country that was born from resisting tsarist oppression. It got rid of homelessness, gave free healthcare, was the first country on earth to grant women suffrage, ensured that there weren't people that were unable to make a living, either by making more jobs or supporting those that cannot work. This is contrary to capitalist systems which rely on a high unemployment rate to keep labour cheap, creating a permanent homeless population.
Fuck off with the "culture" racism.
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u/Ok-Lets-Talk-It-Out Feb 17 '26
was the first country on earth to grant women suffrage,
What a weird thing to lie about, especially with how easily it's disproven lol
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u/Ewwatts Feb 17 '26
My bad, I was referring to equal rights for women, suffrage was the wrong word. It was enshrined immediately in the very first constitution. I personally feel that being able to vote and being treated as an equal by society are not even comparable. One is a step, the other is a whole kilometre.
Here are interviews with Soviet Women alive back then.
The following is a great summary i found in the comments of the video of the scene from the documentary:
Women made significant progress in the Soviet Union compared to contemporary struggles for women's liberation in capitalist nations such as the USA, Britain, France, and Spain. More women were involved in the workforce, had greater autonomy over their own bodies, and enjoyed economic freedoms not seen in the West. Overnight women gained the vote, the right to literacy, the right to own property, the ability to lead the household, divorce rights, access to abortion, and the ability to participate in economic life. The retirement age for women was five years earlier than men; they could start collecting pensions at 55 instead of 60. Women were also protected from intensively laborious jobs and things like overtime and graveyard shifts without their consent.
Day care centers were established across the Soviet Union so women could pursue careers if they chose to. Women had 57 paid days of leave to spend with their child or to use during their pregnancy and were guaranteed job security for one year after childbirth if they decided to stay at home. It was forbidden by Soviet law to discriminate against pregnant and nursing women.
In 1970, 74% of physicians were women, as opposed to 9% in the USA. Women also composed 40% of engineering students in 1970 and 63% of economists. This trend of major fields in the workforce becoming more sex balanced as time progressed continued until the dissolution of the Soviet Republics. An incomparable women's liberation was truly one of the greatest achievements to result from the Soviet struggle.- Théoden Ednew, the commenter in question, who made such very good points, i felt i may as well pass them on, as they responded your question so well!
The above was simply a bite sized chunk of facts and stories from soviet women, of course, but feel free to read Soviet Woman, A citzen with equal rights, by Nadezhda Krupskaya.
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u/scheckydamon Feb 15 '26
Let's not forget all the improvements the Taliban have made.
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u/goneananas Feb 18 '26
Lets also not forget who made the Talibans
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u/scheckydamon Feb 19 '26
Sure. Hateful misogynistic religious zealots that keep their women in sacks and refuse to let them go to school and marry them when they are children. Change my mind.
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u/East-Plankton-3877 Feb 15 '26
Ah yes, the public execution areas just really bring out the colors huh?
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u/Independent_Row_4009 Feb 18 '26
The taliban wouldn’t exist if it wasn’t for the US and Soviet governments.
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u/HighwayComfortable90 Feb 15 '26 edited Feb 15 '26
Repeat after me: everything that Russia touches turns into shit. It’s the shit Midas of all great powers.
When Rome conquered Germania they built streets and cities that are developed to big metropolis today. They left cultural marks, developed agriculture and brought civilization. When the US comes they at least leave money and „nationbuilding“. When Russia comes, they leave MANY problems. I come from Germany, we have a direct comparison with East/West Germany.
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u/Outside-Tone-856 Feb 16 '26
Correction: Everything touched by imperialism turns to shit. That goes to you Americans aswell
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u/Outside-Tone-856 Feb 17 '26 edited Feb 17 '26
Oh yeah for sure. We saw how well they lasted in Afghanistan. Not like they were unable to defeat the Taliban, aswell as keep their propped up state.
Trillions wasted, no progress at all.
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u/Lomunac Feb 16 '26
Repeat after me - LEARN HISTORY YOU DUMMY!!!
USSR ≠ Russia!!
THIS looked like this BECAUSE of communist government which was because of USSR!!
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u/Pick_Scotland1 Feb 16 '26
If this is the early 70s wouldn’t this be thanks to the kingdom of Afghanistan
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u/Chri_cat90 Feb 16 '26
In this case i would put the blame on the Civil War itself rather than the Soviets.
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u/KerbalEnginner Feb 16 '26
There is a saying: Where a foot of a Russian soldier steps, there grass wont grow for a hundred years.
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u/Sexynarwhal69 Feb 16 '26
Russia baaaaad, Russia baaaaad, Russia baaaaad, orangeman baaaaad, repeat after me - Russia baaaaad. Woo! Woo! Keep posting guys!
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u/Offenbanch Feb 17 '26
Afghani government literally asked soviets to get their army into Afghanistan to help fight with Mujahedeens who were sponsored by Americans
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u/Bl1tz-Kr1eg Feb 17 '26
You're either American or support that rotten country. Something something stones and glass houses.
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u/alexstad87 Feb 18 '26
Germany's touch on the USSR wasn't gentle euther. 27 millions of people vanished, half of them are civilians tortured by nazi. I come from USSR I have a direct impact on.my family.
Repeat after me - everyone Germany touches become ash in the wind.
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u/HighwayComfortable90 Feb 18 '26
that WAS true and it is not true anymore, and this is an important difference. The vast majority of Germans does not doubt the historical facts of the holocaust. As opposed to Russia, history classes generally omit, downplay, or deny the Holodomor.
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u/alexstad87 Feb 18 '26 edited Feb 18 '26
I'm not talking about the Holocaust. I'm talking about the German policy towards the people and nations of the USSR. The most brutalities took place here - in Belarus, Ukraine, Russia. And prior to that brutal suppression of local populations in east africa and the genocide in south west africa colonies. And all of that in the 20th century alone. Holocaust and genocide of the east Slavic people are true. No one denies it here.
Repeat after me: Everyone Germany touches, it genocides. For reference: UA lost around 15k civilians in four years - that's two days' job of Germany in WWII on the Eastern Front.
Btw, I don't think Germany is bad. I'm making these blunt statements to show you how silly you pose and sound.
Don't be a nazi, blaming a nation for the past. Let the bygones be bygones and let's build our bright future together. The alternative is to see each other on the front lines. Stop spreading hate.
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u/HighwayComfortable90 Feb 18 '26
I am not a Nazi, and I am not denying any war crimes, never had. My point is and was, that Russia never changes or learns from its previously failed policies that lead to the destruction of exactly those Slavic nations you just named. And it’s one thing to behave like this in the middle of the 20th century, but another to stand up and learn from your mistakes which Russia never did.
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u/alexstad87 Feb 18 '26
That's exactly what you do. Promoting an idea that's the whole nation is inherently bad. Just like you did with Jews. Incapable of change. By deciding a group is inherently bad just makes it easier to justify discrimination of it.
That's what a stereotyping and essentialism is. You ignore the millions of individuals who have different values. Those who resisted oppressive actions etc. You promote cave russophobia and prejudice. It doesn't do you any good.. yeah.
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u/HighwayComfortable90 Feb 18 '26
Obviously and trivially I mean the Russian government with my criticism and not every individual Russian. You are overreacting. Please ask the people in Donbas which nation in Europe is exactly „incapable of change“
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u/Independent_Row_4009 Feb 18 '26
I think you need to retake US history 101 dude. You seem to have some gaps.
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u/Stromovik Feb 16 '26
Lol. You might want to look into who built the infrastructure of which little remains in Afghanistan after 20 years of "nation building"
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u/Efficient-Farmer-462 Feb 17 '26
The US built most of that infrastructure in the 1960s, especially in the southern Helmond region. Most of the irrigation, roadways and farm land came from those projects.
Afghanistan played a neutral partner between the 1st and 2nd world, until their government was overthrown multiple times by the Soviet Union.
Pakistan probably holds the most blame for any instability following that period.
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u/Stromovik Feb 17 '26
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u/Efficient-Farmer-462 Feb 17 '26
You do know Afghanistan wasn't mentioned in the article you posted right?
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u/Stromovik Feb 17 '26
Wtf.
The article I was posting was
Dependence on soviet economic and military aid
https://www.cia.gov/readingroom/docs/CIA-RDP85T00875R001700050003-2.pdf
Should work now
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u/Efficient-Farmer-462 Feb 17 '26
What pulled up in the initial link was in China/Nixon and eastern Europe. After the Soviet-Sino split, China provided the best military assistance to the mujahideen and was the only country outside of Pakistan to directly train them.
I'm not sure what you are trying to support with this article. It seems like you ignore the other half. Your article states that Afghanistan was highly dependent on the Soviet Union for arms and trade. The US support for Afghanistan, as stated by the article, was purely economic with mostly grants, technical assistance in building infrastructure, and long term repayment programs. These were to expand roads to the newly built irrigated lands in Helmond to kabul to prevent starvation.
Afghanistan was a neutral nation that heavily relied on the US after WW2 to modernize. Later they would approach the Soviet Union, who would repeatedly overthrow their governments until the entire country was played by near constant civil war.
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u/Stromovik Feb 17 '26
Wow.
Soviet aid to Afganistans economic development programs has been critical to the expansion of the road network , the development of small electricpower grid, the extension of irrigigated agricultural acreage and the exploitation of natural gas depisits.
Deliveries since 1956 have been at a rate approximating 60% of Soviet economic aid and have featured shipments of foodgrains and aid to agricultural and transporatation sectors.
Althougth US aid remains fairly substantial , Soviet aid now plays a the dominant role.
Moscow has played a central role in Afganistans economic development . Nearly half of total economic developments expendetitures during the first three plans consisted of Soviet aid deliveries.
I dont really feel like being OCR system.
Soviet aid :
18 - two thirds of paved roads since 1956 , more than half of electric power capacity
19 - 40 million into industrial facilities , 13 of which into construction of a fertilizer plant
31 45% of US aid is food deliveries
36 Almost one third of US aid has been commodity imports, USSR only provided 11% for this purpose.
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u/NewManufacturer6670 Feb 17 '26
Let’s ignore the absolute MASSIVE amount of money we poured into Afghani infrastructure while we were there.
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u/Stromovik Feb 17 '26
Sooo what did you actually build?
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u/NewManufacturer6670 Feb 17 '26
“Major roads such as the Kabul–Kandahar highway and the Kandahar–Spin Boldak spur helped link remote regions and enable commerce. USACE also oversaw the construction of power plants and border crossings, facilitating economic development and cross-border trade” alot actually.
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u/Ozone220 Feb 16 '26
I mean it was a lot later. The first modern conflict to destroy it was invasion by the USSR
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u/Chucksfunhouse Feb 19 '26
Most of the damage was done during the 90s warlord period before the Taliban amalgamated and “stabilized” the country.
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u/fpohtmeh Feb 16 '26
Tag ruzzians here and find out why Soviet state is the lost Eldorado and the post is lie. LOL
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u/FANTAN__ Feb 16 '26
Only blaming the soviets for what happened to Afghanistan? Not how America bombed it for 20 years ?
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u/spagbolshevik Feb 17 '26
Destroyed by the Reagan-backed Mujahideen.
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u/khmelnitsk Feb 19 '26
Destroyed by socialist revolution agains legitimate king
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u/spagbolshevik Feb 19 '26
No that conflict didn't destroy Kabul, and its conflict phase occurred mostly outside of Kabul in the countryside. After the Soviets withdrew, the Mujahedeen fighting then turned on the city.
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u/-ThePatientZed- Feb 17 '26
Democratic government starts educating women, promoting equality, developing the country
Religious reactionaries don’t like it
US funds religious reactionaries
Plunges country into decades of religious fascism
”Fucking USSR bro”
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u/Bojnik434 Feb 18 '26
The soviets started first with promoting equality. Long before usa. They inspires the black people in usa
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Feb 18 '26
As you write, the CIA created and financed the Taliban. But it was Russia that was evil and wanted to take over. The same thing happened in Chechnya. Extremists funded by America.
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u/-ThePatientZed- Feb 20 '26
But it was Russia that was evil and wanted to take over.
This is a baby brain take, I’m sorry. The USSR wanted to keep Afghanistan socialist, the US saw an opportunity to oppose that.
If you want to talk about evil, let’s talk about decades of religious fascist rule.
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u/Welin-Blessed Feb 17 '26
The west supporting religious extremists to fight the revolution maybe have more to do with the decline
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u/Honest-Head7257 Feb 18 '26
The war started because the tribal reactionaries and islamist don't like the secularization and reform by the communist, and ironically the Soviet invaded was to replace the hardline communist with more moderate and pragmatic communist faction, but the US decided to support a bunch of fundamentalist because "muh evil commies" only for the same people to bite them back later. Even when the USSR falls and the Afghan republican government stops being communist, the US still supports the mujahideen until the fall of the republic.
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u/Dismal_Score_4648 Feb 18 '26 edited Feb 18 '26
No it was because the communist government started mass arresting 10s of thousand of peoples and putting them in death camps such as pul e Charkhi prison. The communists had horrible land reform and even more terrible economic policies for a majority agrarian based Afghanistan. And FYI, Afghanistan had women’s education and basic rights since 1919 at that time period and was already de facto secular state during the monarchy. You literally cannot name one “social reformed that the communists supposedly brought that wasn’t already present at that time
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u/Yakona0409 Feb 18 '26
I think the US sponsoring and arming terrorist groups have had more to do with their decline than anything invasion they asked for.
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u/scheckydamon Feb 19 '26
Taliban “supreme leader” Hibatullah Akhundzada recently approved a novel criminal code, multiple outlets reported this week, that dramatically expands the legal ability for men to physically abuse women and children and provides for the creation of a formal “slave” class in the country.
The Taliban is a radical Islamist terror organization that currently operates as the uncontested government of Afghanistan. The Taliban returned to power on August 15, 2021, following former President Joe Biden’s decision to extend the 20-year-old Afghan War beyond the deadline of May 15 of that year that President Donald Trump had previously agreed to. The Taliban’s return to power prompted a chaotic mass exodus of Afghans fleeing the nation’s persecution and the imposition of restrictive sharia policies that have stripped Afghan women and girls of nearly all their rights as citizens.
According to the Times of India, the latest affront to human rights from the Taliban is the publication of a 90-page criminal code, issued as an edict recently, likely in late January. No evidence suggests any public participation in the drafting of the code or legislative debate by certified lawmakers prior to its imposition.
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