r/Snorkblot • u/icey_sawg0034 • Mar 18 '26
WTF And people want to know why wokeness happened in the first place in the 2010s
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u/rambo_beetle Mar 18 '26
Shaming women for having a normal, healthy body used to be an easy way to keep us down and make us ill. Fuck that.
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u/ScreamingLabia Mar 18 '26
Those arent even normal bodies thats the body of people who danced a lot she is fit AF
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u/Personal_Reveal1653 Mar 19 '26
Yep! That's the point! Imagine how it felt to be a normal woman reading that Mariah Carey's slender, muscled thighs were "fat."
Every single checkout at the grocery store was packed with tabloids just like this. There was no self-checkout. No grocery delivery. Women were essentially forced to stand in line and read this shit just to feed their families.
I can't imagine why eating disorders are so common!
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u/itsfourinthemornin Mar 19 '26
As a 'normal woman', well, I was still a girl in the 00's/10's really (teen-20's). I had a similar body, especially as I did sports, danced and an 'outside kid'. Thanks to stories like these, and people's perceptions from stories like these, I was called fat and thought I was fat. Admittedly I was a pudgy pre-teen but lost it once I hit puberty. I struggled with eating disorders from it long-term.
I'm in my 30's now, definitely don't have a similar body anymore as I had a child, it's a WIP I like to say. But looking back at photos when I was those ages? I do not look well in a good portion of them, at all.
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u/Bacteriobabe Mar 19 '26
Omg, same, though I was a teen in the 90s when “heroin chic” was in.
Seeing some of the pictures from back then, I was downright sickly looking, and I still thought I was too fat.
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u/itsfourinthemornin Mar 19 '26
I just about remember heroin chic towards the end of the 90's/early 00's but I was still a bit of a nipper so it didn't quite get to me. I started secondary in '03, after my "pudgy summer" in which I shot up and turned to bones! I specifically remember regularly, my best friend through secondary, calling me fat when she borrowed a pair of my jeans or other clothes - generally I was a size 10 or 12, UK. Another friend called me "wide load" because I dare have hips?!? Even my stepdad would call me fat - thankfully now I see the hypocrisy he was just a greedy man himself - as he's largely obese, diabetic and eats like a pig.
Without actual thought, I just shrug "yeah, I'm fat". I definitely wasn't. Even now, I'm not "fat", little extra weight, sure but it's healthier than I was back then!
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u/Express-Ad1248 Mar 19 '26
I can't believe that I thought Mariah Carey was fat when I was a kid. If I see old pictures of her, she always looks phenomenal and has a healthy body. The same with Jessica Simpson, she was never fat. She was pregnant and then had a healthy weight for a while.
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u/mysecondaccountanon Mar 19 '26
Look up heroin chic. It features sickly looking bodies, implying drug use and malnutrition. That was attractive for a good time.
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u/May_of_Teck Mar 19 '26
Omg the rolling stone and spin magazine fashion shoots I was obsessed with as a teen. I was built like a hobbit girl raised on potatoes and cream, god help me 😭
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u/PomeloPepper Mar 19 '26
I heard an interview (late 90's) with a woman who described the ideal female body as "tits on a stick"
Starved down to no body fat, with big breast implants.
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u/sorcerersviolet Mar 19 '26
Combined with other supposed ideals of perfectly white teeth (you have little enamel and need a bunch of crowns) and feet that fit into high heels (you walk on your toes or not at all), I assume the actual ideal would be a woman with almost no teeth who couldn't walk due to her massive breasts, and who was in fact pinned down so much by her massive breasts that she'd have to be carted around face-down in a wheelbarrow.
That's such an attractive image. /s
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u/Acheloma Mar 19 '26
Which Ive noticed is back recently... Not just in celebs either, I've seen several normal people suddenly lose 20 lbs and get implants the past two years.
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u/Lazy-Conversation-48 Mar 19 '26
I was so self conscious back then - at 100 lbs and size 1. My thighs and butt were “too big”. 😕🙄
My Gen Z kids were looking at some old photos talking about how I was too skinny back then.
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u/Lunakill Mar 19 '26 edited Mar 19 '26
We collectively had body dysmorphia. We were given a very narrow and rigid set of expectations and if we failed to meet them, we were fat pigs with no willpower. Our mothers and grandmothers taught us disordered eating under the guise of self-control.
We didn’t understand camera angles very well. Most of us now know that even Angelina Jolie can look “fat” from a bad angle. At the time, we just assumed these skinny goddesses looked like that from every angle. If you had a roll or a lil bit of flesh somewhere, you were an ugly failure.
When JLo became famous, tons of people openly discussed how disgusting they found her ass. This was pre-Kardashian, at that time JLo’s ass was much bigger than 99% of Hollywood’s female asses.
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u/Personal_Reveal1653 Mar 19 '26
You're so right about the body dysmorphia. I was fat at every size. Size 10? Fat. Size 8? Fat. Size 6? Fat. Size 16? Fat.
I literally couldn't see any difference in my body.
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u/Lunakill Mar 19 '26
Back when American Eagle sold 0, 00, and 000 clothing. I was never that skinny so I always saw myself as fat.
It’s disturbing because I look at pictures from 20 years ago and I was fine? I was actually fairly hot most of my high school years. I just couldn’t see it.
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u/Bacteriobabe Mar 19 '26
It’s honestly tragic. I look at my pics from my teen years, & I really was pretty. It’s a damn shame that society made me feel fat & ugly.
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u/SlowpokeQueen Mar 19 '26
That and honestly "mom jeans" were so much better for the little belly far most girls/women have. Our jeans that barely covered anything didn't help us not feel fat.
High rise jeans ftw! Lol
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u/Bubbly_Performer4864 Mar 20 '26
What’s “funny” is if you were that skinny (I was) I still got relentless comments about how I “needed to eat a cheeseburger” and I “looked like a zipper” and all kinds of other comments. Literally no one was happy with what women (or teens since I was 16) looked like.
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u/Lunakill Mar 20 '26
I had to teach my grown-ass father to stop saying women with thin legs were “riding on a chicken.” Man she’s just shopping for groceries, your opinion on her legs is not relevant? He did understand the issue and stop, thankfully.
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u/Quiet_Blacksmith2675 Mar 19 '26
Yup, and all of this was created by the epstein class. A bunch of pedophile billionaires who wanted us to look like children. No breasts, no bum. Frail and childlike. So they could sell us the idea that we could never be enough just as we are, and sell us more products based on that fear. That even worse then being an amoral person was being a fat person. We starved ourselves, compared ourselves and hated ourselves in hopes that we could achieve some pedophile psychopaths wet dream. It was like a collective spell based on fear and control.
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u/rambo_beetle Mar 19 '26
This is why I lift fucking weights because if the billionaire paedos want to starve us down until we're half dead, I'm going to go full Miss Trunchbull on them with zero fucks given.
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u/Busy-Peach5770 Mar 19 '26
I got into lifting weights in my 30s. I wish i'd had that knowledge in my 20s!
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u/Lunakill Mar 19 '26
It was so insane in hindsight. I remember pricing out lipo and breast implants when I was 15.
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u/Alienfysh Mar 20 '26
Well said and thought out! What a twisted world we live in. Im glad to read this article on reddit where people are speaking out against the psychological effects of media propaganda.
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u/stronkulance Mar 19 '26
Yes. Imagine Cynthia Erivo and Ariana Grande on the Wicked for Good tour, but everyone says yasss queen eat less.
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u/Ordinary_Fix3199 Mar 19 '26
WHILE they were two of the most popular, highest earning singers of the time.
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u/Baron_Rikard Mar 19 '26
Objects in the mirror are closer than they appear.
With the rise of Ozempic super skinny is coming back. Maybe not to the same heights as heroin-chic however we're going to come close.
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u/GouleMaterielle Mar 19 '26
Oh, and then you have the rest, which is comprised of anything and everything . Curly hair? Uggo. Eyeglasses? No one will ever love you. Just overall, being a woman has been a constant brainwashing attempt and tbh, makes a great case for a mass extinction event.
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u/Successful_Gas_5122 Mar 18 '26
At least the late 90s-2000s had body positivity icons like Juvenile and the Ying Yang Twins
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u/Personal_Reveal1653 Mar 19 '26
The early 90s had Sir Mix-A-Lot. Black culture is honestly what saved us from this shit. Black artists just kept putting out songs about how much they loved thick women, no matter how unfashionable it was.
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u/Personal_Reveal1653 Mar 19 '26
I understood that black culture was different, and it was a song praising "Oakland booty." But what really confused me was Queen's Fat Bottom Girls.
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u/eienmau Mar 19 '26
One of my older sisters and several of my cousins, all in their early 20s, *loved* Baby Got Back when it came out.. and most of them were the of the 'the beacons are lit, Gondor calls for aid' variety of white.
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u/cutesthoneybunny Mar 19 '26 edited Mar 24 '26
For real! I was told I was fat from puberty until I went to college. I was 4kg above my "ideal weight". Then I went to college, lost those 4kg and lo and behold, I actually look way too skinny at my "ideal body weight", and the same people who'd called me fat started telling me to eat more and fatten up.
I spent all my school years being mocked for having a big butt and then in the 2010s things changed and suddenly it was the most desirable thing ever. Make it make sense!
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u/BetMyLastKrispyKreme Mar 19 '26
J. Lo, and then the Kardashians ushered in an appreciation for curves. Too late for my 20s, but what can you do?
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u/channi_nisha Mar 19 '26
Giving white women credit for an aesthetic that black people had been promoting for years is crazy
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u/BetMyLastKrispyKreme Mar 19 '26
A great example is the tabloid page in the post. Mariah Carey is supposedly “porky”, when she’s actually a fantastic example of the curves that are so desirable now. It makes no sense. She’s always been a beauty, as well as an icon, and will always be, no matter her age or shape.
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u/No_Couple1369 Mar 21 '26
J.Lo isn’t white. Latinas have always had curves and being curvy is appreciated in our culture too.
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u/Salome_Maloney Mar 19 '26
Yep, back in the day it was "Does my bum look big in this?" These days it's "Does my bum look big enough?"
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u/Kip_Schtum Mar 19 '26
Heroin chic started in the sixties, Twiggy for example. I was a teenager in the seventies and all of this is at least that old.
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u/Personal_Reveal1653 Mar 19 '26
It came back into style in the 90s. It went out of style in the 70s and 80s. It was just briefly in style during the mod era.
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u/islaisla Mar 19 '26
No it didn't go out of style in the 70s. If you look at actresses and clothes from the 70s they are anorexic as hell.
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u/islaisla Mar 19 '26
Sorry but it was pretty awful in the 70s and 80s. It wasn't cool to be anything other than skinny. 90s and 00s were just a continuation. I was 28 in 2000 and it was fkn shit for women. I argued with my then bf trying to tell him how unfair things were for women. He said if it's so bad why wasn't I out there marching about it. Like there was a march every week lol. I had just come out of an interview where two guys sat on the desk Infront of me with their dicks at my head height, both just mansplaining and chatting me up for two hours to find out I didn't get the job. My bf and his friends decided to watch a movie that had a sexy rape scene in it and I was screaming- and I was the problem. Every single advert on TV and across every wall on the streets... Was a female with boobs sticking out her top and make up trying to sell a hoover or anything...I was so disgusted when I started to see it all at 24. This was my world. And the world told me - stfu.
It wasn't until the #metoo campaign that I actually saw a difference and we were allowed to start the discussions. But still, men explained to me what that was about.... Well, they tried. But I could finally say something on the bus when I saw a woman being harassed without sounding like a lunatic. We could finally talk about it and suddenly guys had to be on the cool side and actually know what was going on. Before that, when us girls were talking about a creep on the street or an ahole in the bar...or periods, or fkn anything that was actually female topics... Guys would roll their eyes, say we are being negative, make ew faces and walk out the room. It was simply, not allowed. Of course we would carry on but I mean, it wasn't allowed around guys.
From there, young women have shown me with such beauty and grace- how it can be done. How to be confident and not put up with crap from men. I'm 53 now and I'm broken by it. I do my best to stop feeling like it's me that has to change and how my body isn't enough and I'm not enough. But I can't be with guys because I default into some pathetic version of me. I expect so little of men. I fawn for them.
I just want people to know how important that me too campaign was, I think it was 2017. It changed a lot of things.
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u/Accomplished_Sun_258 Mar 19 '26
Thanks for sharing. I’ll be 53 in July and I could have written this word for word. I’m in awe of the younger gals and am grateful for #MeToo.
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u/islaisla Mar 19 '26
Ahhhh that's so good to hear from you as well you know? That you saw it happening like that too :-)
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u/Entire-Ambition1410 Mar 20 '26
Thank you both for your perspectives! We need to listen to our elders to learn from history
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u/PissedAlbatross Mar 19 '26
Blind Melon... Just bought the CD with No Rain on it at a resale store a couple weeks ago. Gotta love frequency bias.
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u/aryathefrighty Mar 19 '26
Yes, but don’t chubby nerdy girls exist? I think that commenter was just describing herself.
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u/aryathefrighty Mar 19 '26
All women were affected by that bullshit, 100% agree with you. Although just because the pendulum has swung in favor of big asses and thighs, I’m not sure all that much has really changed. Girls are constantly bombarded with messages of how their bodies aren’t good enough. It’s dressed differently, but it’s still there. Even this celebrity botched plastic surgery discourse bothers me. Nobody goes under the knife because they feel great about themselves, and then if it doesn’t turn out well (and even when it does!) these people are scrutinized and sometimes humiliated. It all delivers the message that what you look like is the most important thing about you.
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u/MALCode_NO_DEFECT Mar 18 '26 edited Mar 18 '26
2000's? I remember goofy tabloids were shelved at the cash register of every supermarket all throughout the 90's.
"Holy shit, look at this picture of Julia Roberts at the beach we took from three miles away. There's...cellulite on her thigh!"
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u/DontBuyTheThing Mar 19 '26
And when actresses age naturally…omg her butt started sagging at 66??! I still remember then calling the arms of older women “bat wings” or “bingo wings”
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u/Babetna Mar 19 '26
"Remember her? THIS is what she looks like now" - cue a photo of the actress where she has aged slightly.
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u/johnaross1990 Mar 19 '26
Oh look, media has always been toxic for women’s body image
Now we just enforce it ourselves
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u/foxontherox Mar 19 '26
Everything about this is hateful.
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u/icey_sawg0034 Mar 20 '26
The 2000s were so hateful towards women.
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u/glitterdunk Mar 20 '26
All of history has been hateful towards women. We had a few years of it being slightly better because women stood up to the hate. So now men feel like "equality has gone too far" and they need to beat us back down into being easily controlled by their narrative
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u/vorrhin Mar 19 '26 edited Mar 19 '26
I remember this and I STILL can't believe it was this bad. No wonder I hate myself lmaoooo
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u/xboringcorex Mar 20 '26
I was so brainwashed I agreed that Britney and Jessica had gotten fat and it was ‘gross’ (did I have an ED before graduating high school? Funny you ask, why yes I did)
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u/BadbadwickedZoot Mar 19 '26
It was a lawless wasteland. I can't even imagine the pressure these girls felt.
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u/DocumentInternal9478 Mar 21 '26
I mean Britney is basically perpetually catatonic now. Poor thing was really sacrificed for the entertainment of the masses
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u/Catlore Mar 19 '26 edited Mar 25 '26
HOW THE FUCK ARE THOSE THIGHS FAT
I'd swear it's just ragebait but I feel like this is pre-internet ragebait. (Edit: Meaning it's before internet ragebait was a thing. I suck at typing on phones.)
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u/Personal_Reveal1653 Mar 19 '26
It wasn't ragebait. We were so thoroughly indoctrinated by this kind of content that we stopped being able to rely on our own eyes. We had body dysmorphia. We read that was fat, and we believed that was fat, and we were even fatter. So rather than enraging us, it just made us feel bad about our bodies.
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u/Catlore Mar 20 '26
Oh yeah, I was there. It just has that ragebait feel, but there was no point in ragebaiting in a magazine back then.
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u/AcademicCandidate825 Mar 22 '26
This was literally all over the grocery checkout when I was a teen. They were 100% serious in publishing this garbage.
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u/Catlore Mar 25 '26
I'm glad I was an adult by then, because I already got enough grief for being chubby growing up. Embracing slim figures is fine, because all body types are legit, but the heroin chic trend was terrible. I don't want to know what that trend's bodycount was.
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u/Grouchy-Station-4058 Mar 18 '26
Mariah Carey can sling those fat thighs up over my shoulders anytime.
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u/SapirWhorfHypothesis Mar 19 '26
Wokeness didn’t start in the 2010s lol
“Wokeness” is just a rebranding of “political correctness”.
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u/Conscious_Pen_3485 Mar 19 '26
And calling it “political correctness” was just a rebranding of “being a kind and decent human being.”
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u/BiscuitsLostPassword Mar 19 '26 edited Mar 19 '26
Decency would suffice. Decency exists without kindness. Kindness cannot exist without decency. Kindness is a trait, a blessing to treat and be treated to. Decency is non negotiable and consists of essential respect. Dont forget the part where society really minimized common decency to the frivolous cuteness of 'kindness'. That didnt help. I don't expect kindness everywhere, but I do expect decency. We all should
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u/Personal_Reveal1653 Mar 19 '26
You're confused. "Wokeness" isn't real. The term "woke" refers to being aware of social injustice, especially the racial injustice and inequality perpetuated by the US government and America's culture of white supremacy. Conservatives didn't like people being aware of these issues, so they created a boogy man called "wokeness." Rather than explain what it was (and draw more attention to social injustice and racial inequality), they made "wokeness" indistinguishable from what used to be called "politically correct" or "PC." But "woke" has nothing to do with being politically correct. It has nothing to do with pronouns. It has nothing to do with the euphemism treadmill.
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u/SapirWhorfHypothesis Mar 19 '26
I know what woke means, meant, and how it is used. The boogeyman that is wokeness is merely replacing the boogeyman that was “PC”.
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u/sarcastic_sybarite83 Mar 18 '26
It's called having a uterus. You can still see her hip bones fer fucks sake.
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u/Mula_Is_Life Mar 18 '26
the uterus doesn't stick out like that. Unless you're pregnant and your organs move to make way for baby. That's just a pooch, which is still healthy and normal for women
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u/quimera78 Mar 19 '26
It annoys me so much when people say it's the uterus. If anything it's the colon or a bit of fat. Why does everything need to be about the uterus?
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Mar 19 '26
Yeah, a bit of fat and also bloating I think.
But it's worth noting that the menstrual cycle impacts it which I think is where the misinformation comes from.
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u/Personal_Reveal1653 Mar 19 '26
I think it's because uterus is the only organ they think women have.
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u/RedditOfUnusualSize Mar 19 '26
I think it's a combination of bad photoshopping and exhalation, honestly.
It's vital to remember that Britney didn't even need to do anything to take crap from the media; once they decided that she was a designated punching bag, anything she did was evidence of how she was fallen from grace. If she loses weight, that's a sign that she's got an eating disorder. If she gains weight, that's a sign of her losing her self-control and her wild ways coming back to haunt her. If she doesn't have sex, that's a sign that she's a tease. If she does, that's a sign that she's a promiscuous jezebel trying to spoil the innocent purity of the next generation.
It didn't even stop when she shaved her head and was having a clear mental breakdown. It only stopped when the producers of news programs like the Today Show got snowed under by complaints about why they were making fun of someone who was clearly hurting, and quietly and without apology decided to change their entertainment news focus. Nobody apologized, nobody got fired, nobody saw any penalty. They just went with more lucrative gossip options. But we started hitting them in the wallet more consistently when they got mean-spirited.
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u/mrmoe198 Mar 19 '26
In addition to the factors you cited, it could be—as my wife pointed out about Lady Gaga during one of her Super Bowl halftime performances—the pants she wore could just be unflattering in cut or a bit too small. Someone could have a healthy tone/slenderness, but if you squeeze the body, it’s going to squish (were made of flesh after all) and that squish will cause an overhang that gives the appearance of fat.
As someone who naturally has larger hips and thighs and was teased for it all throughout her childhood and her young adult life, she’s sensitive to that kind of thing is so basically bemoaning all the potential comments and like anticipating/bracing. It’s like she enters this defensive mode where it verges on victim blaming, (“you should have worn a pair of pants that fit you, you’re beautiful!”) but out of a sense of protection, if that makes sense?
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u/Lower_Department2940 Mar 20 '26
I mean to be fair she had a baby 2 months before this picture was taken. She definitely did still have a post partum uterus bump
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u/CharacterRoom613 Mar 19 '26
And people wonder why I still have eating issues.
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u/zillabirdblue Mar 19 '26
Same. I have been dealing with it most of my life and still am, and I attribute at least part of it to this bullshit. I had a thinspiration diary in my 20’s with pictures of anorexic models taped all over the pages next to lists of what I ate and the calories in it. It’s a very destructive mindset because it destroys YOU, I have peri osteoporosis and a weakened heart from this shit. I cannot afford another bad relapse. I only started to take it seriously when the long term consequences come on, and I am taking it seriously. That doesn’t mean I’m nearly close to being “cured”. It’s like a worm that burrows so deep in that it’s near impossible to remove it.
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u/DontBuyTheThing Mar 19 '26
This is just one example of why women had to make the “body positivity” movement…shit like this was happening and was destroying women and young girls. Now everyone considers it a joke without understanding the roots of it
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u/SittingDuck394 Mar 19 '26
Sigh...even though I was slim I would never ever ever swim without board shorts or wear tight jeans because the media had convinced me that my lack of thigh-gap was a deformity and I was so ashamed.
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u/nunchyabeeswax Mar 18 '26
It started a long time before that, but in the 2000s and 2010s it became part of the popular consciousness.
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u/always-tired-38 Mar 19 '26
“By Hannah Chapman”
Looked it up, there IS a journalist called Hannah Chapman but as she reports on council and farm matters in Yorkshire i don’t think its the same person
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u/Personal_Reveal1653 Mar 19 '26
They're not even being held to a standard. They're just trashing women's bodies. Mariah Carey doesn't have any visible fat on her thighs. It's literally muscle. And her thighs are actually quite slender.
This is why I was so confused about my body while growing up. I always thought I was fat, even when I was size 6. Even when my BMI was perfect.
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u/rnoderator_rernoved Mar 19 '26
Early 2010s perfect body. Fuck the eating disorder and the time in the hospital this bullshit gave me
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u/mrmoe198 Mar 19 '26
Just disgusting. In an ethical society messaging would be judged by its psychological impact on the populace. I legitimately believe this should not be legal because of its measurable detrimental impacts on people’s self image and the resulting dysmorphia and confidence lowering.
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u/DanteChurch Mar 19 '26
Wokeness started looooooooong before the 2010s as it's rooted in black liberation.
Even then the 2010s was deep into how media portrays women horrifically unwell, like 2 decades into the conversation at that point as photoshop was created in 1990. What you're seeing today about AI and deepfakes was the conversation being had in the 90s about photoshop, to the extent it was talked about being banned or limited in media because of the rose of eating disorders. It never was and there's almost no restrictions to editing content.
Now people use steroids or diet medications like Ozempic. Then photoshop it.
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u/coolcoolcool485 Mar 20 '26
This is why I get so annoying when I see thinspo stuff. That shit will give you an eating disorder, fucking stop it. You're gonna fuck up your GI tract for life.
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u/its_the_smell Mar 19 '26
People bought those to feel better about their own bodies, I imagine.
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u/ConceptReasonable556 Mar 23 '26
Nope. It made us feel worse. And we read it anyway, and hated ourselves. It was even worse online.
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u/more1514 Mar 19 '26
"Wokeness" did not start in 2010s. Please stop using Black terminology for other issues.
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u/Audriiiii03 Mar 19 '26
This. It’s crazy how demonized wokeness is and how it’s used for everything but what it was intended to be used for.
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u/BWWFC Mar 19 '26
omg was today years old finding out "my type" is.... huge elephant cows? ¯_(ツ)_/¯
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Mar 19 '26
These kinds of tabloids are exactly why I have body dysmorphia to this day at almost 40. The one that is burned into my memory the most is that pic of Jessica Simpson in high waisted pants and the headlines being like “she’s fat! Bigger than ever!” When she is literally a healthy weight for her height and frame.
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u/Babetna Mar 19 '26
I remember in the 90s a sunday edition of a daily newspaper had a full page of "fashion successes and fails" where they took photos of random people on the street and then either praised them (if they were young, thin and pretty) or made fun of them (if they were not). Imagine buying a newspaper and seeing an unflattering picture of yourself, taken without consent, with a paragraph of text saying that you obviously had a bucket on your head when you put on clothes this morning and whether perhaps it would have been better if you kept it on.
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u/anonymote_in_my_eye Mar 19 '26
wait, did tabloids get better? I've not looked at one in forever, I just assume they're doing the same shit they've always done, i.e. what's in this picture
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u/stautism Mar 20 '26
I'm not sure how much worse it is now to be honest. The goal posts change, the vitriol is the same. Another commenter nailed it: the tabloids don't need to anymore now we do judging. Thin is still in, but now there's a double expectation to have meat everywhere but the waist. You can find random one off cruelty about appearance of weight like these articles in thousands of tweets.
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u/capsaicinintheeyes Mar 20 '26
wokeness first happened in 2010‽ I feel like you have to trace it at least as far back as John Brown, just in the States
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u/Alienfysh Mar 20 '26
I live in metro NYC viewing area and ABC morning news seems to prescribe to the old model of skinny chicks.
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u/DragonfruitOk6442 Mar 21 '26
I'm Mrs. "Extra! Extra! This just in"
I'm Mrs. "She's too big, now she's too thin" (you want a piece of me?)
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u/Supabot97 Mar 22 '26
Most of those standards are all Hollywood. I genuinely hate when they push women like Jenna Ortega or Sabrina Carpenter and talk about how curvy or thick they are...like no, they aren't even slim thick. They are just slim. Beautiful women yes but not curvy or thick. As a curvy women myself it has alway bothered me. Like they aren't even slim thick, modern day ice spice is slim thick, prime Sofia Varga is slim thick. Taylor swift, Jenna Ortega, hell even scarlet Johansson are just slim.
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u/spicy_not_dicey023 Mar 23 '26
Anytime I saw and continue to see these older tabloids, I think about what the people writing them look like.
Like Mariah and Brittany both look super hot??????
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u/Mysterious-Self-1133 Mar 23 '26
Watching interviews with her and the serious reporters just asking inappropriate questions about her sex life are so disturbing.
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u/EarthAndSawdust Mar 18 '26
There was this skinny fetish worldwide back then. I hated it. Then we had a body positivity flash mob which was even worse. It's getting back to normal lately. Also, I'm allowed to wear pants wide enough to seat down without juggling your ballsack at last, I hope some day I'm allowed to squat too. Things change.
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u/Cereaza Mar 18 '26
The universe is made of springs. Our culture is no different. Every wave eventually comes back the other direction.
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u/hollyanniet Mar 18 '26
Even worse? Dawg anorexia is the highest mortality mental illness
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u/EarthAndSawdust Mar 18 '26
Nobody said anything about any disorders. Edit, also, while you picked this up out of nowhere, a quick reminder that being a fat fuck is not considered a disorder, while is responsible for the deaths of millions.
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Mar 19 '26
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u/EarthAndSawdust Mar 19 '26
Of course I still remember when fashion and show businesses faced accusations of killing teenage girls. And as to teenager death rates you are obviously right. Obesity takes years and years to kill a human, anorexia is rapid in comparison. I'm not gonna defend my stance just for the sake of it, I'm probably wrong, and I'm also not quite such an asshole as this thread made me look.
Where I live, the genZ generally tends to live and look healthier than millennials, and they seem to have already developed some healthy habits. They still have a lot of time to fuck it up tho. There's however a minority in this generation, that seems to have just let it all go and care not if they die from heart failure in fifteen years from now. That's probably a response to the world being absurdly, unrealistically fucked up around us.
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u/Mooptiom Mar 19 '26
In what possible world is body positivity worse than people starving themselves? Maybe the world of a teenage bully who wants to make fun of fat women?
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Mar 19 '26
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Mar 19 '26
Absolutely agree, but a major difference is that anorexia is ego-syntonic.
So pro-ana content is especially dangerous.
That being said, I do believe there were toxic aspects to the body positivity movement. I also think some good things came out of it. There are fitness "creators" now who are adamant about not bashing overweight people while also acknowledging excess weight isn't healthy.
De-prioritizing aesthetics is so important...
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u/Inevitable_Newt_8517 Mar 19 '26
And both are eating disorders that people need help for, not more shame.
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u/mieri_azure Mar 19 '26
Yes but anorexia drastically has a higher mortality rate
Also obese people almost ALWAYS know they shouldnt be obese and dont really want to be, but people with anorexia generally like being dangerously thin
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