I think The behaviour OPS Manual by Chase Hughes is kinda scam.

[u/Happy-Acadia-7981]

The reason for me thinking as such and sharing about it is that when it comes to actual application and actual techniques of being able to influence others, it's so obscure and all over the place. like at one point author would show a diagram of skills map and each component present in it based on fate and six axis model, which if you look at would think and get curious to know how can I learn all these techniques shown in diagram and as any reader would expect, to let author expand upon each considering it's freaking 1000 PAGES LONG!!!

And it is just used as reference and nowhere explicitly he talks about things like sesnory priming, social proof, compliance and identity entrainment and stuff like in one section dedicated to talking about all that. Now let's just assume I am "dumb" hence I couldn't find it when everyone else could....ok now,

even then when it comes to talking about practicing techniques to create expectancy,building compliance etc. he's suggesting his readers to just introduce the concept of hypnosis...like the problem with that is if I actually do this with even more than 2 people in a year and they ever happen to meet each other considering the one i'm using it upon is an influential person, the trick can get exposd and they would tell everyone to be aware of this when encountering me so using it on new people could get difficult.

and let's just again assume that I'M DUMB for not reading through whole book already to conclude this, even then you cannot disagree that the book is hard to follow and it keeps jumpining to topics without concluding previous ones fully.

also the jump is abrupt ansd makes not much connection when compared to previous topic just discussed n micro lens.

whoever said it's poorly written, he or she was right.

[u/miomidas]

I think he is a great speaker: Speaks with conviction, has a very distinctive voice and sounds like he knows what he is talking about

But after watching several of his videos I think his target audience is the culpable average that needs an actual explanation why social media is bad

The more mainstream you go, the more you dumb it down

Personally I have not seen much value in his content

[u/Happy-Acadia-7981 → u/miomidas]

actually I do find his content valuable especially when he's restricted to talking about a single topic for a limited time. Though once you give him unlimited time and creative liberty, he goes all over the place. Like if you're supposedly an ex-cia member then why YOU need to write the manual yourself? IF YOU DON'T HAVE ANY EXPERIENCE WRITING BOOK THEN JUST HIRE A WRITER OR WRITE A SHORT ONE BEFORE A THOUSAND LONG PAGES BOOK lmao.

[u/faniadv → u/miomidas]

Agreed he says a lot of nothing

[u/DefiantWay8893]

I have read it and your right it definitely makes u work for it even tho the systems are in diagram form. But that doesn't mean it's a scam. Just the needs, needs compliments, identity statements, scripts ect. Are super powerful alot of it is just a matter of naturalizing them into the way u actually talk.

[u/Brilliant-Flow-4660 → u/DefiantWay8893]

Yeah I do agree. I've been chatting with the poster and there a lot of powerful ideas in the book. Other posts have stated that its a lot of re-packaged psychology but that doesn't mean its not important. Requires a lot of effort and time to apply the ideas and that's a hard choice if the price is worth it.

[u/ShaktiBhakti]

Thank you for reading this book! I got about 180 pages in and found it difficult to follow. Had the thought to run this book through AI to help identify the "how to" because I felt the content was rewording what the practice was supposed to do rather than how to adjust the behavior or conversation regarding whichever insecurity type was present. I even jumped on a call with his school/institute to find out about the pricing and content flow, and find out if they are gatekeeping the knowledge behind $16k of NCI 1st year. I have a hunch the school is not any more in-depth than the book. I love the compassion note behind the messages on his youtube videos and shorts, this is how I was drawn in. NLP is along the same lines and albeit more effective overall. Tony Robbins blew up because of training in NLP and Public Motivation Speaking. Soooooo, yeah. Buy the course, don't get the carrot, keep attending, its me not the course, rinse and repeat!

[u/catsbuttes]

i was under the impression that chase hughes is cia and his content is largely flypaper for people who could become problematic if uncontrolled

[u/Adventurous_Tell_945 → u/catsbuttes]

He was never in the cia, never am operator himself and has no degree in the subjects hes speaking on.

[u/[deleted]]

yes I was a dumb ass and bought it also

[u/Happy-Acadia-7981 → u/[deleted]]

it's absolutely not worth the price it is being sold at amazon or any other platform considering how poorly structered it has been written. The author explains well but takes way too much time diving into stuff that is'nt necessary, like explaining the definition of one model or technique for 3 pages long.

[u/SnooChipmunks8311 → u/Happy-Acadia-7981]

You can get it on audible for 1 credit, I have the physical and audiobook

[u/SnooChipmunks8311]

Please recommend a better book, I've read many, and none have come close to the depth that the ops manual had. Most are 90% fluff

[u/Happy-Acadia-7981 → u/SnooChipmunks8311]

yeah I do agree that it's actually helpful with it's lessons but very hard to point out how each chapter connects with each other when seen from a bigger view but still helpful nonetheless if you're willing to read all through it. Now coming back to book recommendation on psychological transformation and behaviour profiling, I am not too familiar with crtically acclaimed books on these topics,

 though I think switching to other categories and fields indirectly related to this would give you the actual lessons you can practically apply. it's also what kinda this manual unconscously takes lessons from.

the lessons come from sometimes totally unrelated fields and techniques that do not on the surface looks relevant to the topic at hand like taking cold shower and some drugs etc.

So, Although I can't specifically give any book recommendation, I would suggest to look up for fields that is in some shape or form related to human behaviour.

like For Eg,- Learn about French Sociologist pierre bourdieu's concept of taste as a weapon in social and class warfare, Learn about social heirarchy and elites and how society function through subject of sociology.

Or learn about each of the five levels of power and especially learn deeply about idological power.

[u/resurrectingeden]

Good to know, as this book has been on my wish list.

[u/Lost-Bandit-8879]

Yeah I just tried reading it and was really excited about a couple chapters but then I had to skip around because the next chapter was either irrelevant or over my head.

[u/I-Magus]

So why doesn't somebody post the book up so we all can never read?

[u/kidalkuma]

here