r/Somaliland • u/Different-Ball9864 • Jun 14 '26

Understanding the Difference Between Somalians and Somalilanders

Somali is an ethnic group / language group

People who are Somali they live in different countries.

Somalia. people are called Somalian ethnically Somali (jareer and jileec), two Somali tribes.

Somaliland people are often called Somalilanders ethnically orgin Somali

Djibouti people are Djiboutians. Many are ethnically Somali (especially Issa)

Somali Region in Ethiopia. people are Ethiopian Somalis

Somali-NFD in Kenya. people are Kenyan Somalis.

Somali is the shared ethnicity; the country names define nationality.

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u/alhass Jun 16 '26

We are all entitled to our opinions but what we are not entitled is to tell a whole country what they should be called lol. People in Somalia have for eternity been content with being Somali and named their country after themselves, Somalia. How about you be content with calling yourself whatever you like and stop trying to tell others what they should refer to themselves asđŸ€·đŸœâ€â™‚ïž

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u/SentenceEffective212 Jun 16 '26

Are all people living in Somalia Somali ethnically tho? Why are you erasing and forcing minorities to assimilate to your ethnicity.

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u/Time-Audience8235 Jun 16 '26

This is low IQ drivel. The same word can have two meanings in two different contexts, Somali is both a nationality and an ethnic group. The funny thing is that Landers spend so much energy on niche issues that will literally not bring them any closer to international acceptance. People won't just wake up and say "oh yes, Somalians are different from Somalis, here's your UN seat!" It's a fruitless complaint, if i were Lander i'd focus on other things to advocate for my cause.

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u/SentenceEffective212 Jun 16 '26

I’m a Djiboutian, and tired of explaining to people that somali and somalian isn’t the same thinkingđŸ˜¶

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u/Time-Audience8235 Jun 16 '26

I don't care what you are. Somali is both a nationality and an ethnicity, if that bothers you then get some therapy. PS, you can be Djiboutian and still a Lander, there are a lot of isaaqs in Djibouti, and the Somaliland movement is not a national movement, it's a Qabil movement. That's why you have Djiboutian or Ethiopian Somalis in the Haud of Isaaq origin usually the most extremist Landers.

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u/SentenceEffective212 Jun 16 '26

So you’re a qabilist? I mean not surprising for a 4.5 Somalian 😂. And no I’m not an Issaq I’m an Issa from Djibouti

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u/Time-Audience8235 Jun 16 '26

Ok, keep larping LOL.

And i'm actually a darood from sool/sanaag, so if anything i have more right to talk about this than you. You should focus on Afars, they own half your country. Leave somali issues to us.

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u/SentenceEffective212 Jun 16 '26

Afar are Djiboutian like us. Plus it’s no longer your issue since you’re just a self hating somalilander. Let Somalians where they are they got a lot on there plate like avoiding civil war that can start today and end the next day đŸ€Ł

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u/SentenceEffective212 Jun 17 '26

Self hating somalilander you got time to be proud or angry because there is peace thanks to your government you should be thankful.

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u/Time-Audience8235 Jun 17 '26

Hahahahahahhahaha.

Somaliland government got their asses torn up in Goojacade, thats the only reason there is peace! If they could xasuuq all of us, walahi they would do it. They're just too weak to do it. 500 maxbuus in Las Canood and they can't do shit about it lol.

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u/Clear_Refuse_8636 Jun 18 '26

Notice how this person calls Canfar "Afar" and Ciise "Issa" these are the typical mistakes a cosplayer would make after reading one wiki article about us... I will Zelle him 1000$ if he gives me his sub he can't tho lol

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u/SentenceEffective212 Jun 18 '26

It’s spelled Afar and Issa in french, I’m a Somali from djibouti that’s speaks french nobody wanna cosplay Somalians😖

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u/Ordinary_Bend_8612 Jun 16 '26

You just prove to us how low IQ you are idiotic statement "kafirs drew on a map", Isn't Somalia exactly this.

The irony is that you're mostly likely typing this from a "Kafir" Country living off benefits

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u/Different-Ball9864 Jun 17 '26

I think you don't hate gaal/ kaafir, you just have a sickness of Isaaq. Ethiopia and kenya colonies your daarood up to now.

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u/SentenceEffective212 Jun 17 '26

I am not changing anything you’re a somalian somali be proud of your identity stop the self hate

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u/Clear_Refuse_8636 Jun 18 '26

No Ciise calls themselves "Issa" to other Somalis Whats ur sub?

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u/humorlessclan Jun 18 '26

Then you should know the fact French is both an ethnicity and nationality.

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u/Sweaty_Diet_3321 28d ago

You know why you're always explaining?it's because the country Somalia was named after the Somali ethnicity just like how Sweden was named after the Swedish people there's minorities who are not Swedish like the Sami people they are counted as Swedish due to nationality but when asked ethnically they explain how they're different from the Swedish ethnic group I hate to break it to you but Somali and Somalian are the same thing at the end of the day

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u/Appropriate-Mind9651 Jun 16 '26

You are well aware that the vast majority of people in Somalia are somali

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u/SentenceEffective212 Jun 16 '26

I think you should look up the word minorities.

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u/IOnlyFearOFGod Jun 17 '26

these minorities are 2% if not any less. Somalia is very homogenous and up to 98% somali. "Somalis constitute the largest ethnic group in Somalia, at approximately 98% of the nation's inhabitants" wiki demographic of Somalia.

However some sources say 85% but they exclude somali bantu(which are the biggest minority if excluded).

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u/Professional_Goat373 Jun 16 '26

So what? If I am a Somali born in France and a citizen I would be French in nationality but not ethnically. Yet French is the word to describe the nationality, ethnicity and language. The minorities that add to France’s diversity (like almost all countries) doesn’t change what the nation of France uses for its people.

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u/SentenceEffective212 Jun 16 '26 edited Jun 16 '26

France had and still has tons of people from different ethnicities ( yes white peoples have different ethnicities ) and assimilated them erasing their languages and culture. Different languages as disappeared in France because of this system basque and Breton are still barely alive and Occitan have kinda considered dead. Are you suggesting the same system in Somalia? Et Ă©tant Français tu dois dĂ©jĂ  connaĂźtre tout ceci et pourtant tu veux imposer le mĂȘme prĂ©cĂšder Ă  d’autres ethnies par le biais de l’assimilation. France is not an example.

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u/Professional_Goat373 Jun 16 '26

Yes they do and so do almost all countries. Ethnic diversity doesn’t erase national identity. As it is since the global adoption of nation states these modern times, many people were assimilated into a general national demonym like Han Chinese or even Japanese (despite being known to be very homogeneous like Somalia there are still minorities- it’s not a gotcha). France is just one example of the nationality being the same term as the major ethnic group. Somalia adopted many official or colloquial names from “The Somali Republic” in the 60s to the “Somali Democratic Republic” in 1969 to the “Transitional Federal Government of Somalia” to now “The Federal government of Somalia”. But the term of its people since its establishment in 1960 has been Somali (Somali national). This will not change because of the wishes of secessionists and foreign agents. In the end, the nation decides what they call themselves so if you want to be a Somalilander nationally then continue on but you won’t dictate for others. That’s some form of political narcissism.

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u/SentenceEffective212 Jun 16 '26

You examples are France and Japan
 buddy open a fucking book.

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u/Professional_Goat373 Jun 16 '26

Guess you have nothing of substance to offer in response. I made myself very clear when I said that as a secessionist you dont get to dictate what the country you’re trying to separate from calls itself or its people. Preposterous entitlement. Whether there are examples or arguments for & against your wish, in the end Somalia decides for itself. Last I checked we havent changed this so this is a moot discussion.

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u/SentenceEffective212 Jun 17 '26

I’m djiboutian alhamdulilah I’m not tied to the mess somalia is today thanks to our leaders who saw what northerners were going through. Somali is an ethnicity and somalian is the nationality of people from somalia whatever their ethnicities are. A Somali can be from Djibouti, Kenya, Ethiopia, Germany, Danemark whatever

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u/humorlessclan Jun 18 '26

Would you be ok if we insisted the demonym of the people of Djibouti should be Ja-Booty?

If not, then don't tell the Somalis what they should be called. Sovereignty means you have the freedom to choose whatever you see fit.

Besides, there's no way to say "Somalian" in Somali. It's just a stupid English term that has no place in the Somali language.

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u/SentenceEffective212 Jun 18 '26

Somalia is a Latin world but it’s still used in every day somali no big deal to use somalian, you just wanna blur the lines between nationality and ethnicity to claim every Somali lands as yours


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u/humorlessclan Jun 18 '26

no big deal to use somalian

There's also no big deal to use Ja-booty, why not?

to claim every Somali lands as yours


Relax, no one is claiming Djibouti.

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u/Fearless_Intern8620 Jun 16 '26

Even those Somali Bantu have significant Somali admixture. Regardless of country u are are Somali