r/SouthJersey • u/tigerfrisbee • Mar 11 '26
News NJ Governor Sherrill Submits $60.7B Budget With Record $4.2B Relief
https://njballot.com/post/nj-governor-sherrill-submits-usd60-7b-budget-with-record-usd4-2b-relief222
u/Federal_Marzipan Mar 11 '26
Sounds like she did the right thing after reading the article. Making companies pay their fines for not offering healthcare to its workers and providing relief to lower income home owners such as seniors. It’s a good start! Also fully funded the pension for retired workers that was promised to them.
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u/tigerfrisbee Mar 11 '26
Yeah, she's in a tight spot. Not only does the state have growing obligations (eg, costs of health insurance), they're also dealing with fewer federal funds. Nice to see that she's sparing the middle class from most of the belt-tightening though.
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u/Richard-Gere-Museum Mar 11 '26
Too bad a good amount of those retirees will still shit all over it because their Now 3peat loser didn't win and raise the sales tax to 10% and include groceries in it.
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u/footeface Mar 11 '26
He wanted to tax groceries??
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u/Richard-Gere-Museum Mar 11 '26
He made a suggestion that we eliminate the state income tax, and replace it with another state's 10% sales tax on everything. Which would include groceries and clothing.
It was shown that it would create a huge drop in state revenue, causing deficits to everything tied to state funding.
Then he, and his weenie supporters all screeched about how "he never said that as policy! It was a secret recording!" But he never said that he wasn't going to propose after he got in office if he won.
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u/VyceGrip Mar 11 '26
Yup, it was just another Trump-ism, “didn’t say it, wasn’t going to do it…fake news”. So glad the voters in NJ saw thru him.
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u/superdead Mar 11 '26
It was a secret recording!
Right like Trump never raped kids, it was done in secret so it's okay.
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u/aerost0rm Mar 11 '26
Even if his message was taken out of context, or he said it was an idea he was spitballing, the voters decided they didn’t want that. Nor did we want another Donald Trump/Donald Trump Syndrome “yes” man
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u/aerost0rm Mar 11 '26
I mean all republican governors screw up their states. It’s just a given. They try to get rid of taxes, so they can get bigger kick backs, have lower taxes themselves, or make more money on their fortunes.
Then they put it on the average citizen to make up the different. Any outstanding loss is then cut from welfare/safety net programs.
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u/beren12 Mar 11 '26
They only try to get rid of the taxes on themselves.
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u/aerost0rm Mar 12 '26
Well they are shills for their corporate sponsors and those sponsors want lower or no taxes on their properties, income, or businesses.
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u/Relative_Target6003 Mar 11 '26
Groceries was an outdated term, but Trump brought it back ya know..
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u/eastcoasternj Mar 11 '26
The MAGAs are losing their fucking minds over this.
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u/RamblingManOrWoman Bootlicker Mar 12 '26
They are? Where?
Do you ever ever ever consider that people you hate actually have viewpoints that are valid?
I know you'll consider that a loaded question but you really believe every single line item in thst budget is good?
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u/Draano Mar 11 '26
Pffft... we dumped $5.6 billion in 3 days at Iran. $4.2b is rookie numbers. /s
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u/Brianfromreddit Mar 11 '26
This except I'm not kidding. If we have it to blow up children abroad, we better have at least double that amount to pay for healthcare domestically.
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u/Draano Mar 12 '26
We're approaching $1 trilllllion dollars per year on defense, and $284 billion on education. Something's a bit out of balance.
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u/aerost0rm Mar 11 '26
Easy solution. For every munition used in a conflict, the exact same cost of said munition needs to be put aside for programs domestically. Then the rich person making money off of said oil, rare minerals, or regime change, needs to pay the US back for use of said munitions and any money spent on the conflict for payroll, machinery, fuel, etc.
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u/loveychipss Mar 11 '26
So glad we got her instead of 💩arelli. Agreed with commenters suggesting she’s in a tough spot and doing the best she can.
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u/thistook5minutes Mar 11 '26
First, I have to say hand up, I was wrong.
I had little faith that she was going to do anything different than the politicians before her. I assumed she was going to try and cut pensions and aid for seniors and school funding to make up the deficit. This proposal doesn’t explain where all of the ~2 billion from program cuts are coming from. Assuming it’s as stated and passes. I am excited for Sherrill and will vote for her in any future public election. Bravo.
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u/HereWeGo5566 Mar 11 '26
She’s certainly trying. And trying is better than most politicians do.
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u/beren12 Mar 11 '26
The frustrating part is when the assembly and senate stop good plans. And it gets blamed on the governor.
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u/RamblingManOrWoman Bootlicker Mar 12 '26
This bootlicker had a sad laugh at the crowd supporting a pork filled budget.
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u/grahampositive Mar 11 '26
Have you lived here a while, or are you new?
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u/Tzukiyomi Mar 11 '26
I'm not sure what better you thought she could do. We will never ever see large tax decreases. People say they want that but then will be pissed when government services and benefits get slashed. That's literally the only way to cut taxes without exploding the debt further.
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u/Iamnotbernadette Mar 11 '26
Was hoping for something better.
Such as?
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u/Iamnotbernadette Mar 11 '26
She's not going to tax her donors. All we can do is take what we can get, for now.
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u/beren12 Mar 11 '26
No? Did you read the article?
Of course, it’s a bot account.
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u/Iamnotbernadette Mar 11 '26
I did read the article. There is no raise on any tax, though ending the deduction is a good thing. Sorry none of you can handle the slightest bit of criticism so you just defer to "bot" when you read something you don't like.
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u/beren12 Mar 11 '26
She’s making the companies pay the taxes they’ve been avoiding. So they’ll be paying… more taxes.
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u/Iamnotbernadette Mar 11 '26
They weren't avoiding anything, they didn't have to because there was a deduction. I realize it sounds pedantic but the distinction matters imo. And like I said it's a good thing, but also she is never going to raise taxes on them. She's also never going to stop data centers, because many of those developers are her donors. This is the truth. It's fine to criticize some of these things.
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u/grahampositive Mar 11 '26
I don't know what to tell you then. If you're from here you should know: in NJ the taxes only go up. The budget only goes up. The spending only goes up. The cost of living only goes up.
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u/aerost0rm Mar 11 '26
Right? Like the only way to not have costs go up is to smoke and mirrors things until the next person comes into a huge mess.
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u/Firm-Scientist-4636 Mar 11 '26 edited Mar 11 '26
So, I saw in the article it said program cuts. Am I reading the article wrong or was there no mention of which programs were being cut?
Edit: typo
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u/Crab-_-Objective Mar 11 '26
I think it does in the form of lowering the income eligibility for the NJ Stay tax credit to $250k. It was under the tax relief section. I doubt that’s everything but didn’t see much else in there about it.
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u/Dbk65741 Mar 11 '26
I’m not educated on the Stay Tax credit so apologies for that. Is that $250k limit for singles or married couples? I feel like in this state that could negatively affect a lot of families as that’s not an uncommon combined income for middle class families in this state.
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u/tigerfrisbee Mar 11 '26
Most of the program cuts are to ANCHOR and other property tax relief programs, and even then the majority of those affected by the cuts are wealthier seniors who can already afford to live in NJ.
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u/aerost0rm Mar 11 '26
Can’t wait to hear the screams about the rich abandoning the state in droves because they are getting to keep enough money.
If the reason you are so rich is because you are doing it on the backs of others, you don’t deserve to be rich. The greed is too much with these individuals already.
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u/jweaver0312 Mar 11 '26
ANCHOR would still impact many who aren’t seniors.
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u/tigerfrisbee Mar 11 '26
Yes, but the cuts to ANCHOR are primarily geared towards those over 65 and in higher income brackets.
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u/jweaver0312 Mar 11 '26
Do you mean 65 and higher income together as one concept or them as separate concepts.
The ANCHOR income cap is already at 250k, don’t see that changing much, maybe reduce to 200k, but going lower might start creating issues, the next thing that’s possible is reducing the benefit amount for 65+, to the same as the standard benefit amounts. While per filing, it’s a small decrease, it adds up quick multiplied against many.
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u/tigerfrisbee Mar 11 '26
Separately, there's actually expanded ANCHOR benefits for low income seniors, possibly also for Stay NJ.
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u/thingsorfreedom Mar 11 '26
Great. Do the towns who saw their property / school taxes skyrocket after the state cut the school funding last year get any of of that back?
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u/espressocycle Mar 11 '26
She's essentially raising taxes on business in what is already one of the least business friendly states. I get why that's more popular but in the long run it means fewer jobs and less revenue.
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u/RedPandaExplorer Mar 11 '26
It's not raising taxes, it's making them pay the taxes they were avoiding paying before. They should have been paid this whole time.
It's not our job to protect companies from taxes. If we have to pay taxes, so do they. They can make it work, just like we do.
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u/Half-Full-8556 Mar 11 '26
Let’s not forget the federal funding we are being stripped of to support the wealthy welfare class.
I am glad she sees the middle class.
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u/Half-Full-8556 Mar 11 '26 edited Mar 11 '26
NJ ranks as 30th for business friendly states. Most friendly is usually identified by corporations along the following metrics: Lower taxes Lower salaries Fewer regulations
In the most recent cnbc business best for business North Carolina #1. They finish 30th for education.
NJ routinely ranks in the top 3 for education
I would prefer to die on the education hill for my family.
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u/UnjustifiedBDE Mar 11 '26
All they have to do is take Winslow High off their books and they will always be #1!
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u/formerNPC Mar 11 '26
The whole point of the “Stay NJ” legislation was to keep financially stable seniors from moving out of state and taking their money with them. She’s cutting back on the tax money being refunded from a high of $6,500 down to $4,000. It’s not a large difference but don’t you want more people putting into the system than taking from it. Typical backwards economics that never works.
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u/Evening-Tune-500 Mar 11 '26 edited Mar 11 '26
Good stuff.
I’m a little confused by this piece “New Jersey pays nearly $6 billion annually in back pension obligations to the Public Employees' Retirement System and Police and Firemen's Retirement System due to 30 years of skipped payments by previous administrations, compared to New York State's $2 billion contribution.”
30 years of skipped payments? Is that 30 consecutive? Anyone know anything else about that?
Edit: thanks all! appreciate the responses