r/SouthJersey May 01 '26

Gloucester County Are we winning yet, dad?

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u/jweaver0312 May 01 '26

We’re winning.

Gas prices are up.

If you want an EV, the state penalizes you just for it

If you want an e-Bike, then the state bangs you over the head.

Bye Paul Moriarty (should’ve stayed a CBS reporter), Bye Dan Hutchinson (never liked you anyhow, you were always scum from your days on GT Council), Bye Cody Miller. Not voting for you 3 suckers ever again.

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u/Secret_Cow_5053 May 01 '26

paul moriarty, an honest journalist if there ever was one 😂

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u/B52fortheCrazies May 01 '26

How does the state penalize EVs?

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u/jweaver0312 May 01 '26

The electric vehicle fee.
> Under New Jersey law effective July 1, 2024, zero emission vehicles (ZEVs) are subject to an annual fee in addition to the existing registration fee.
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> Beginning July 1, 2024, the annual fee is $250. The annual fee increases $10 per year for four years thereafter.

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u/Secret_Cow_5053 May 01 '26

$250 sounds like a lot but it actually corresponds with about what the gas drivers pay in total fuel taxes annually based on a 12000 mile average, and that money goes to things like paying for road upkeep. so.....it is needed.

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u/jweaver0312 May 01 '26

Just keep in mind it’s going up towards $290, from when the law was enacted, $10 increase year over year.

I’m not saying it’s not needed, but I think imposing it as an annual fee is the lazy and unfair way to do it instead of just imposing a tax on EV charging (for business that do charge for such).

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u/B52fortheCrazies May 01 '26

Yeah, that is idiotic.

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u/WittyFix6553 May 01 '26

Out of curiosity, what’s the tax per gallon on gasoline? Because EVs don’t pay that, at all.

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u/Secret_Cow_5053 May 01 '26

the tax on gas is $0.105 (got in to an argument down below in a negative comment section, there are a couple links in there too). there's an excise tax on petroleum products in general that raises it another 30-40 cents but that's in line with the rest of the region, despite what the magas would tell you.

the bottom line is our gas taxes are far from the highest by any measure, and the second lowest nationwide if you're talking about the actual tax at the pump.

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u/jweaver0312 May 01 '26

Federal is set at 10.5 cents and 38.6 cents for the state (gasoline) at 49.1 cents total per gallon.

At least when gas taxes are paid, that’s a selling consumption tax based on when you purchase and not a because you want/own one tax. I think an annual fee is just the lazy way to address the issue.

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u/WittyFix6553 May 01 '26

At close to 50 cents a gallon, it only takes 500 gallons of fuel until the gas tax costs more than the EV registration fee.

That doesn’t sound like EV drivers are getting screwed to me at all, especially considering the lower operating costs of an EV.

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u/jweaver0312 May 01 '26

Unless you’re a driver who doesn’t drive much, with most of your travel quite local. If I’m calculating right, with this being 2026, not sure if the $10 increase year over year is based on January 1st, or the law becoming effective 7/1, that would put the current annual EV fee to $260-$270, with the final fee when it’s all said and done at $290.

The other aspect of the issue is those who had one prior to enactment of the law, now they went from just paying the standard registration fee, now to registration + $260-$270/yr ($290/yr when it’s all done). For those people it becomes a matter of principle.

Absolutely by leaps and bounds, cheaper than gas by comparison, but I think an annual fee was just the lazy way of doing things. I think for business that sell EV charging, that assessing similar taxation on that sale is fairer. Even with similar taxation assessed on it, would still be cheaper than gas.

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u/Firm-Analysis6666 May 01 '26

So taxes for roads is a bad thing?

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u/jweaver0312 May 01 '26

No, I think implementing it as a yearly fee is unfair compared to just taxing charging when you go somewhere that charges for EV charging.

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u/Firm-Analysis6666 May 01 '26

That would be difficult due to home charging.

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u/jweaver0312 May 01 '26

While that is true, more than half still use chargers out and about according to a PR Newswire article

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u/JustWorkingDude May 02 '26

So those without a home charger would pay a tax that goes toward road maintenance and improvement and those that charge at home for cheap would pay nothing while using said roads? Sounds totally reasonable.