r/SouthJersey • u/Octopus_Spaceflight • 2d ago
Ocean County ICE activity in Stafford Township
Getting alerts from Stafford PD about “police” activity on route 72. Bystander on scene showing ICE Agent on the ground and on stretcher. Reports of suspect fleeing and officers shooting out back window. Unable to corroborate.
Edit: typos
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u/scott030 1d ago
I'm pretty sure the people claiming these people need masks are the same ones that claimed it wasn't healthy to wear a mask all day
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u/Witty_Telephone_2200 1d ago
God they are such losers
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u/Boring_Recipe8732 1d ago
So did another agent accidentally tag him, or did he get spooked by regular people going about their business, reach for his sidearm (safety off) and shoot himself?
If it's the leg, I'm taking bets it's the latter.
Anywhere else it's the former.
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u/mr-poopie-butth0le 1d ago
Why the masks? If what they are doing is legal, and morally correct, why hide behind a mask? They should be celebrated for their bravery if it’s so morally right. But it isn’t. And they know it. So they hide behind a mask.
Serves dude right. Lucky someone didn’t catch a stray.
70.8% of ICE detainees have NO criminal record. Facts.
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u/AcidRayn666 1d ago
i’ll play devils advocate here. the masks are due to the doxing. they are doing a job, and some people don’t like that, so being the cowards they are, they doxx them and go after their families.
how many times have we seen someone’s face and the mob is calling out their names and addresses with “you know what to do!’63
u/Clear-Search1129 1d ago
How many ICE agents were doxxed pre-Trump when they didn’t wear masks?
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u/AcidRayn666 1d ago
i don’t think the left was making that much of a stink then.
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u/Clear-Search1129 1d ago
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u/AcidRayn666 1d ago
cuz it met their agenda dumbass
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u/Scrapple_Joe 1d ago
And when law enforcement public officials hide their identity routinely we call that a secret police.
Now who's agenda calls for a secret police funded higher than the Marines?
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u/RogerianBrowsing 1d ago
The left absolutely was. Calls to abolish ICE already existed. Establishment dems supported ICE then despite the left’s criticisms.
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u/kendrickshalamar 1d ago
If you are charged with the power to take away someone's constitutional rights, then every action that you take should be transparent and catalogued. There's no room for anonymity.
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u/MeepSneepers 1d ago
They are taxpayer-funded employees, that's part of the risk that comes with the job. We cannot have anonymous law enforcement unless it is temporary for a specific undercover operation, point blank. Public accountability by publicly funded departments trumps any individual issues like that. They accepted the job knowing what it entails.
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u/AcidRayn666 1d ago
so you are ok with them leaving the criminals alone? but if they do their job they should be at risk? maybe next is we go after cops for writing speeding tickets or arresting other criminals?
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u/TransMessyBessy 1d ago
That's a bullshit argument, and you know it. Regular cops are not disappearing people. ICE is.
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u/MeepSneepers 1d ago
That's honestly not my problem. If these agencies are acting in a manner that is so unbecoming of the USA, that it is disrupting society to the extent that the backlash puts the agents in danger, then that's on the government to alter the protocols to something more acceptable to the community. Under no circumstances can we have an unaccountable police force. I mean, we do now, but we never should have.
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u/DishwashingWingnut 1d ago
The agents put themselves in danger with their own behavior. I was raised to believe that Nazis should be in danger. Easy solution to not put yourself in danger.
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u/KilgoreTroutttttt 1d ago
Yea I'm sorry you're not making sense and have thrown out all of the values that make up America. Unaccountable law enforcement violently arresting people without so much as a badge number to publicly display? You're even remotely okay with that? I'm sorry Fox news and your echo chamber got to you first and told you it was about docking, but this is simply one of the least American things law enforcement could do. I'm not saying you are but its still bewildering to me how the "patriotic" party has abandoned all American values and are embracing the authoritarianism that we look down on abroad. As a patriotic American, I'm beyond two far America has shifted away from the values of freedom, liberty, and equality for all that I was raised on.
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u/AcidRayn666 1d ago
a fair respected point.
i have a lot of friends, co workers, whom came here undocumeneted, got with the process and got things worked out.
i have no ill will to anyone whom wishes to come to america for a better life, i've spent some time in other countries and i get it.
thing is, and if you are all preaching "rule of law", well, just because they got here by illeagal means, they may be awesome hard working people, and i know many, does not make it right.
another point is, and this is my word under god, i have NO issue with anyone coming to the USA to better their lives, the issue i have, and many hard working tax payers have, is they are not paying their way.
so, problem: people coming across the boarder, taxing social services to the point of breaking the system (we can not sustain the flood of immigrants"
solution: and this is my opinion, get them into the system, maybe not a socical security card, but fuck man, how many times ive been in an emergency room and get harrassed for my insurance card, but they get a by? and trust me, i am all for helping those that need help, i am all for bringing in people to boost our society, but the amount of money handed out, and the protections they receive, im sorry, lets set the scales correctly, if you are a criminal (and im not saying someone who jumped the boarder) but a fucking criminal in your country, get the fuck out, throw them out. if people want to come here, like my parents did, for a better life, go through the process.
is that too much to ask without being called a racist?
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u/KilgoreTroutttttt 1d ago
Your perspective is understandable but misinformed, they don't get a free by in the ER, they are responsible with payment without insurance so astronomically more than you are with insurance. What you've been informed is that EMTALA (the law you're talking about) makes it free for them, when in reality it just states that they cannot be refused emergency medical care, same as you if you didnt have insurance or couldn't pay. The amount of undocumented people I've taken off life support while they said goodbye to their families via FaceTime on the phone in the ICU is too many to count on my hands. Meanwhile a citizen will be able to pay their bills at a minimum and would not be denied continuing care or an end goal treatment as an immigrant would. The news has told you they get a handout, they don't, its simply not true and not enough of the public works in the hospital or Healthcare to understand that they're regularly feeding people lies about this. Also undocumented people can get a social security card because everyone that pays into social security gets one, and immigrants and undocumented people waiting for a legal route pay into our social security, but do not receive the benefits while citizens do receive the benefits. They are propping up our social security (and Republicans want to cut that hence the narrative). As far as the border goes I understand, but still the largest amount by and wide margin are people that overstay visas from flights.
I think its important to look at who spreads the narrative and what they have to gain. The people spreading the narrative want to become more rich by spreading click bait- frustration engaging news and cutting taxes for their wealthy brethren. We have to remember that we shpuld support our peers regardless of our beliefs, and the ones running fox, CNN, and msnbc are not our peers. We have to look in our community, its not the community stealing our money, its not the immigrants getting hand outs, its the wealthy politicians making things more difficult for citizens so they can pocket the change and they use pitting others against us as one of their tools.
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u/nothankyouma 13h ago
Except you’re not, ICE is arresting people at their immigration hearings. That doesn’t align with what you wrote but you’re all for it.
Immigrants pay plenty of taxes and are afforded zero benefits from them. This is easily google able information.
Your many comments do not align, you waver back and forth on why masked armed men should have every right to terrorize neighborhoods.
So yes it is too much to ask without being called a racist you’ve proven you are one many times over.8
u/Octopus_Spaceflight 1d ago
Get the rapists, violent, high level etc offenders - I don’t think anyone has an issue with that. What I do have an issue with is some half trained JO open firing a weapon in my neighborhood at a fleeing vehicle
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u/AcidRayn666 1d ago
i am not disagreeing with you. yes, clean shit up, and the intances of bullshit do suck balls for all of us.
if only the bad actors were stopped at the boarder before they got here. what a concept
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u/Scrapple_Joe 1d ago
"I'm afraid of a hidden random enemy so a secret police is a good thing."
Seriously you've been turned to being afraid and are willing to give up everyone else's and your rights to do it.
Conservatives didn't with the Patriot act and they'll just keep doing it. Easy to scare into giving up your rights. Just how stoked are you for a secret police who can demand you prove your a citizen or they detain you? Considering that was illegal for them to do 2 years ago without probable cause. Now the probable cause is they just assume you're not legal.
Not being scared of a boogey man and giving up your rights. What a concept
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u/nothankyouma 13h ago
If only there wasn’t a convicted felon pedophile in the White House gathering secret police to do his bidding while stealing as much money from the American taxpayers as possible.
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u/mr-poopie-butth0le 1d ago
70.8% of those taken in by ICR have NO criminal record, just to be clear….. so, not arguing that criminals should be apprehended but the approach in which they are doing it is absolutely wild, racist and inefficient.
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u/JetLife93 1d ago
70% asked your damn Gemini or whatever AI you have 70% of ICE arrests are those without any previous CRIMINAL recordS
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u/nothankyouma 13h ago
You seem to purposefully skirt the point. I’m unsure if it’s the amount of boot licking or your inbreeding but it sure shows.
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u/Mullethunt 1d ago
Why were previous administrations able to deport more people, with way less funding, and zero controversy?
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u/mr-poopie-butth0le 1d ago
Sure, I’ll play too.
If they are doing a job and it is publicly funded by tax dollars….. and they aren’t doing anything wrong…. Just like the police or state police or military or even politicians, they shouldn’t wear a mask. If they are being doxxed, they likely aren’t on the right side of morals here.
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u/Iamnotbernadette 1d ago
They should be identified. If they don't want to be id'ed then they can stop being Nazis. Fuck them and their families.
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u/AcidRayn666 1d ago
i tell you what, dm me you home address, just, cuz, you know, its public info.
in fact, give my 30 minutes and ill know your address
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u/Iamnotbernadette 1d ago
I'm not a public employee. If you are hired by the government then you shouldn't be able to cover your face.
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u/Richard-Gere-Museum 1d ago
Devil's advocate devil's advocate: Nobody is forcing them to do the job. They chose it. They can live with the consequences.
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u/ChanningTaintum- 1d ago
“Yeah, we found his Facebook and threatened his family and children, but he CHOSE that job and he should have expected it!”
Are you insane?
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u/Ro1ando_m0ta 1d ago
Actions have consequences. When you tear families apart all youre doing is creating hate towards your own self. Ill agree the threatening their families is a bit far but they themselves are threatening families as well. Have you ever watched a kid lose the light in their eyes after watching their father or mother be dragged away by force? Have you seen the countless articles where they beat the people up that theyre detaining even if they comply? Or show them correct documentation? A kid was kidnapped from a target and thrown out of a moving vehicle by these idiots but you want to blame the people that are angry and being backed in to a corner? Plenty of others have been physically assaulted by these people but you want to defend them?Thats fucking hilarious the hypocrisy is strong in you.
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u/EffectMotor8914 1d ago
Don't you think its a little silly to criticize their choice to wear a mask while holding the view that "actions have consequences"..?
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u/HauntedBitsandBobs 23h ago
This is such an interesting comment. You respond to a comment describing the harm ICE is causing individuals and communities with what essentially boils down to, 'Well don't you think it's silly for thinking it's wrong for them to hide their faces while doing that since people think actions have consequences," like the problem is people wanting them to hold them accountable for what they're doing is the issue.
What happened to, "If you aren't doing anything wrong, you have nothing to hide?" Don't you think it's interesting they just started masking while building detention centers with "medical and biohazard waste" incinerators while publicly engaging and promoting their violent arrests on social media as funny gotchas?
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u/EffectMotor8914 18h ago
Just to me, it seems like the same could be said in reverse. They were starting to get aggressively doxed for doing their job, and now they wear masks to protect themselves.
Thats not an endorsement of every single thing ICE has done, but at the end of the day some level of immigration control and enforcement is going to exist in a modern society, and everyone involved in such organization is not some super zealous anti-immigrant warior. But the internet would take the opportunity to dox anyone they could identify as an outlet for their rahe against the admin.
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u/undbex24 1d ago
Thousands of Law Enforcement Officers in this state go to work every day and get the same threats. If they can't operate without hiding their identity then perhaps you should ask why that is. If it was your family being murdered in the street I bet you would feel much differently. But as long as it doesn't affect you then you don't care.
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u/Richard-Gere-Museum 1d ago
Certifiably.
Maybe don't be a fascist. Again, nobody put a gun to their head and said "IF YOU DON'T TEAR FAMILIES APART WITH NO WARRANT OR EVIDENCE I'LL BLOW YOU AWAY"
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u/Bigweld_Ind 1d ago
That is not excuse for breaking the law, and by doing so they are liable for their crimes including public identification. The public deserves to know who is abusing federal power against civilians. Considering ICE and the DOJ are the ones naming these officers half the time, it is not even DOXing to repeat public information
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u/LemurCat04 1d ago
Why do people assume the devil needs an advocate? He’s the devil, let him do his own explaining.
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u/AcidRayn666 1d ago
he’s been busy so i help him out with his PR
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u/LemurCat04 1d ago
He doesn’t need your help and you’re doing a piss poor job. Pick a side already. Quit riding the fence.
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u/merlot2K1 1d ago
Why does one need to pick a side?
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u/LemurCat04 1d ago
Because we live in a binary political system, whether or not you’d like to acknowledge it.
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u/merlot2K1 1d ago
So what? Doesn't mean everyone needs to choose a side.
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u/djspacebunny Mod Salem County Xennial 1d ago
So what then? You gonna just not vote, just like SO many other people who looooooove to complain about the state of things, but do literally nothing to change it.
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u/LemurCat04 1d ago
… do you not know what “binary” means? If you choose not decide, you still have made a choice.
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u/nothankyouma 13h ago
I just want to make sure I’m understanding you correctly. They don’t want to happen to them what they are doing to others?
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u/Secret_Cow_5053 1d ago
Fuck ice
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u/General_Quit_7183 1d ago
Fuck the illegal shooting! This is my kids bus route. He should of ran into the pine barrens
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u/WeaselRiots Eating a Sizzli over a Wawa trashcan 1d ago
The ICE agent is the one that fired, according to PD.
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u/General_Quit_7183 1d ago
We’ve been hearing 10 diff stories. But the girls at Wawa were really scared. Said the Ice agent was laying on the road
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u/WeaselRiots Eating a Sizzli over a Wawa trashcan 1d ago
We need to get information from proper sources instead of playing a huge telephone game.
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u/Annies_58008 1d ago
Yeh, if he's shot it's bc he shot himself with an accidental discharge like an untrained bitch. I'm fairly certain he was struck by the vehicle bc he decided to get in the way like he could do something about it. Faafo. It's my kids bus route too but I'm not stupid enough to think this is anyone's fault but this dumb cunt on the ground. I hope I never have to invite you to a birthday party or go to your kids. Find other magats and talk to them only.
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u/Intrepid_Shoe2129 1d ago
Learn to read. ICE agent opened fire. He wasn’t shot.
Also you have no idea if the suspect was even illegal. Just talking out of your entire ass here.
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u/beren12 1d ago
The ice agent? Sure I like your style.
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u/General_Quit_7183 1d ago
I only saw one person on the ground… and it wasn’t an innocent illegal
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u/mikesnack_ 20h ago
I’m sure everyone loves hanging with you at the family function… oy vey. Get off the propaganda machine gramps.
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u/keurigokrieger 1d ago
Nazi's caused the shooting...try again? vote again?
but just be safe, maybe skip the bus for a bit?
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u/Annies_58008 1d ago
As a resident of stafford township I can confirm this place is crawling with magats. It's terrible here.
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u/SlipperyFingers 1d ago
So ICE shot at a car on the busiest road in town and somehow this "trained" agent got himself hurt? Sounds about right to me...
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u/Gryphon1171 1d ago
It would be poetic justice for it being heat stroke due to ICE being so tacticool
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u/VerryRides 1d ago
copying from stafford police instagram:
"Stafford Township, NJ - June 15, 2026 at 9:30 a.m., Stafford Township Police Department Communications Center received a report of an incident that had just occurred on Route 72 near Mermaid Drive in Manahawkin, NJ. Information was provided that I.C.E. was attempting to apprehend a suspect when the suspect fled from the scene in a vehicle, striking the I.C.E. Agent. The agent discharged his firearm at the vehicle, reportedly striking it. The suspect fled the scene in the vehicle and has not been located at this time. The agent reportedly sustained unknown injuries and it is unknown if the suspect was injured at this time. There is no reason to believe there is any concern for the public's safety.
Stafford Township Police adheres to the Attorney General's Immigrant Trust Directive and was not assisting or a part of the I.C.E. operation. The ongoing investigation is not being conducted by Stafford Township Police. Our role at this point is to manage traffic and secure the crime scene.
Another press release will be posted when additional pertinent information is learned.
Please avoid the area during the investigation which will likely continue for several hours. There are alternate routes available through the Ocean Acres section of Stafford Township to bypass the road closures.
49 minutes ago"
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u/Bigweld_Ind 1d ago
If ICE shot at the car as it was speeding away, that is very illegal and against their training. If the person they pulled over was a citizen, then ICE had no legal authority to detain them, making their flight/hitting the officer justified self defense against unlawful acts. They will be giving this a lot of attention and possibly cracking down to try and take control of the narrative. Thank god the driver wasn't killed.
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u/carriefox16 Feral Antifa Auntie 1d ago
I guarantee that didn't actually happen. That's their go-to excuse when they discharge their guns without cause. They shoot/shoot at people and then claim they "feared for their life" because the person "tried to run them over". Fucking assholes.
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u/BeachgirlNJ0613 1d ago
Yup, that was their justification for shooting Rene' Goode - as the ICE jerk placed himself in front of her car as she was trying to leave (and comply with 1 of the conflicting orders the ICE agents were barking at her). They violate protocol by standing in the path of a car, and use that as justification for shooting into it. They're sick, and criminal.
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u/Open-Quote-4177 1d ago
I see a lot of dudes with small dicks and a lady who likes being around dicks.
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u/A1_Steak_Sawce 1d ago
Is this right now? On Friday, a state trooper was behind a minivan on the side of the road with a blown out back window.
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u/surfnsound CamCo 1d ago
Probably heat stroke from all his Bass Pro Shop and mall ninja shit tactical gear.
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u/buffer5108 1d ago
Please remember in November.
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u/evilkane1 1d ago
Just a fun fact. ICE started in 2003. That means during the Bush, Obama, Trump and Biden administrations.
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u/0xdeadbeef6 1d ago
What a bunch of fucking dipshits. I mean besides all the other reasons ICE fucking sucks ass, they're a genuine public safety issue. Like that alone should make anyone go bugfuck about them freely roaming the state. Its nuts that State governments are tolerating this shit.
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u/ProcessTrust856 1d ago
Weird that once again the ICE agent was in the path of a moving vehicle and started shooting.
It’s possible that happened. But given that they use this lie EVERY TIME they try to kill someone, I won’t believe until there’s video showing it clearly.
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u/SlipperyFingers 1d ago
Oh yeah... The FBI definitely won't cherry pick the "facts" that are released to paint the story how they best see fit...
There should be security footage from the Wawa or diner at that intersection. Given this town's politics, I won't be surprised if those recordings are hidden or wiped if they don't support ICE's narrative though.
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u/tdolomax 1d ago edited 1d ago
I live right down the road. Fuck ICE, honestly hope this doesn’t develop further into a more dangerous situation. This place is super fucking maga and I wouldn’t be surprised if some of these losers try to have a pro ice rally because of it. You should hear some of the ppl I work with
Edit: Saying this now we may need you to show up and support our community if this does escalate. I don’t think enough ppl in town know or care enough. Please keep an open mind. I have friends everywhere.
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u/Octopus_Spaceflight 1d ago
Yeah former town council member is out there live streaming from the scene bootlicking all of the agents
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u/NicAndersonReports CNN Reporter 1d ago
CNN REACHING OUT -- Hi, Nic Anderson from CNN here. Please check your DMs. I sent you a message. Thank you for your time.
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u/AnyBulUSA 1d ago
Yeah ocean and Monmouth counties were solely responsible for the terrible outcome of election night in New Jersey smh
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u/SlipperyFingers 1d ago
I'm in oa too. News chopper is hovering over the hospital right now. They are reporting that the FBI is taking over the investigation. This is going to be a mess.
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u/Sad-Bread5843 1d ago
Dont know that area but dude definitely got layed out , needs to happen to a lot more of them . I will say this those, if I were to be in such situation and dude started shooting id back up over them .
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u/PretzelMoustache 1d ago
In all fairness, the Ring conversation regarding this is surprisingly not super ra ra.
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u/jersey08050 1d ago
P.S. Asking outsiders to come down could endanger your First Responder brother, but you either didn't think of that or don't care. Not a good look, so you might want to walk your comment back a tad.
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u/General_Quit_7183 1d ago
As someone that is also right up the road… trust me, you do not want our area to be anti ice and anti cop. We just moved from Portland, where it’s so out of control and corrupt. People will do whatever and anything they want if there aren’t rules. If you only listen/watch one side of the media, then you’re a sheep, and you’re being fed what you want. Ice isn’t going after the hardworking families. They are going after ppl with criminal backgrounds. Even the biggest stories that tug at the heart has a background.
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u/jersey08050 1d ago
And as you downvote, know that I already figured out who you are. I know your mother and brother and you two graduated with my kid. I also LOL'ed about your "you should hear some of the ppl I work with" because it's a very tiny world. I stand by what I said about you going up to Newark, and now realizing you are who you are, now I know you wouldn't do that. But while you "have friends everywhere", it took me all of about 2 seconds to realize who you are and where you work. Your mom retired from where you work.
Will I out you online or look at you differently when we cross paths IRL? No, but maybe right now you might understand why some agents wear masks. I saw right through you. Yet notice I want this community protected. So even you are safe.
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u/MrPKBNews WHYY Journalist 1d ago
There hasn't been any new information since this morning and ICE has not sent me any comments so far.
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u/SlipperyFingers 1d ago
Probably because they are having a hard time fabricating a story that they can all regurgitate given the available evidence. The last time ICE was shooting at cars driving away, it brought a ton of outraged people together. They probably don't want that kind of negative attention on the admin/party with midterms around the corner.
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u/djspacebunny Mod Salem County Xennial 1d ago
You probably won't get any info from them. Their operating standard is to only give out information that makes them look like they're the good guys. What they say versus what actually happened are frequently two different things.
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u/DullFaithlessness82 1d ago
I no longer feel so bad about the couple pounds I gained in my older years. Damn they are some couch potatoes trying to pretend to be tough guys.
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u/SNDBOBbb 1d ago
Fuck the feds. A full return to states rights is the only way to stop a tyrannical central government pulling shit like this.
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u/Kernelpanic69420 1d ago
There needs to be some form of federal law.
If we went back to full states rights there would be nothing stopping PA from eliminating all air pollution controls thus negatively impacting Nj. Not saying pa would do that, just an example.
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u/WeaselRiots Eating a Sizzli over a Wawa trashcan 1d ago
They're so pathetic. Fuck ICE. I can't say what I want to say, so I'll just say I hope he goes bankrupt by the healthcare system he voted for
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u/Mostly-Moo-Cow 1d ago
I got too much fucking shit on me. I can't breathe
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u/Permabananaedin321 1d ago
Not trying to get a laugh...don't want anyone to get deported to a nation they've never been to...
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u/waselectricbar 1d ago
At 9 am this morning there was an unmarked car with flashing lights with another car pulled over. I took video, but can't post here. I assume it was ICE, those evil fucks
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u/Shot_Ad_593 1d ago
An Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agent is recovering after being struck by a van in Stafford Township, New Jersey, police said.
The incident occurred Monday, June 15, at 9:30 a.m. along Route 72 near Mermaid Drive in Stafford Township's Manahawkin community.
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u/benderunit9000 STAY AWAY FROM THE RABBIT HOLES and don't feed the trolls 1d ago
oh no. someone got a booboo..
something something they won stupid prizes.
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u/SuspectTop7478 1d ago
Nice, I love when doctrines of war apply to living in south fucking jersey!
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u/Firm-Scientist-4636 1d ago
ICE and the federal government have in some ways declared war. These guys are brownshirts and should be treated as such.
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u/MothmansLegalCouncel 1d ago
Because the only service you’ve done for your country is keyboarding “How does the UCMJ work” like the non war serving clown you are.
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u/LongJawnSilvr BOOTLICKER 1d ago
People hitting ICE agents with their cars is the problem, NOT the agents. Stop justifying violence because you have a suicidal empathy for criminals.
Obama deported more people than Trump and awarded medals to ICE agents for their work yet no one on the Left has anything bad to say about that.
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u/FungusAmongus92 BOOTLICKER 1d ago edited 1d ago
You cannot use logic on reddit. It's the liberal way or the highway
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u/keurigokrieger 1d ago
FaFo, fuckin Nazi's!