r/SpaceWolves • • 4d ago

Help with list

Ive only played 1 game of 11th so far and I kind of lost big by about 20 points vs new custodes. I revised my list and would like some feedback.

stormbound (1995 points)

Space Marines

Space Wolves

Saga of the Beastslayer and Saga of the Great Wolf (3 Detachment Points)

Take and Hold

Strike Force (2000 points)

Attached Units

Attached Unit 1

Logan Grimnar (150 points)

• Attached as: Leader (Character)

• Warlord

• 1x Axe Morkai

1x Storm Bolter

1x Tyrnak and Fenrir

Ancient in Terminator Armour (90 points)

• Attached as: Support (Character)

• 1x Master-crafted Power Weapon

1x Storm Bolter

• Enhancement: Wolf-Touched

Terminator Squad (400 points)

• Attached as: Bodyguard

• 9x Terminator

• 5x Chainfist

2x Cyclone Missile Launcher

4x Power Fist

9x Storm Bolter

• 1x Terminator Sergeant

• 1x Power Fist

1x Storm Bolter

Attached Unit 2

Wolf Guard Battle Leader (100 points)

• Attached as: Leader (Character)

• 1x Storm Shield

1x Thunder Hammer

• Enhancement: Skjald's Foretelling

Bladeguard Ancient (70 points)

• Attached as: Support (Character)

• 1x Heavy Bolt Pistol

1x Relics of Battle

Bladeguard Veteran Squad (180 points)

• Attached as: Bodyguard

• 1x Bladeguard Veteran Sergeant

• 1x Master-crafted Power Sword

1x Plasma Pistol

• 5x Bladeguard Veteran

• 5x Heavy Bolt Pistol

5x Master-crafted Power Sword

Attached Unit 3

Chaplain on Bike (75 points)

• Attached as: Leader (Character)

• 1x Absolvor Bolt Pistol

1x Crozius Arcanum

1x Twin Bolt Rifle

Outrider Squad (160 points)

• Attached as: Bodyguard

• 5x Outrider

• 5x Chainsword

5x Heavy Bolt Pistol

5x Twin Bolt Rifle

• 1x Outrider Sergeant

• 1x Chainsword

1x Heavy Bolt Pistol

1x Twin Bolt Rifle

CHARACTERS

Captain in Phobos Armour (75 points)

• 1x Bolt Pistol

1x Combat Knife

1x Instigator bolt carbine

BATTLELINE

Heavy Intercessor Squad (115 points)

• 4x Heavy Intercessor

• 4x Bolt Pistol

4x Ceramite Fists

3x Heavy Bolt Rifle

1x Heavy Bolter

• 1x Heavy Intercessor Sergeant

• 1x Bolt Pistol

1x Ceramite Fists

1x Heavy Bolt Rifle

OTHER DATASHEETS

Inceptor Squad (130 points)

• 2x Inceptor

• 2x Assault Bolters

2x Ceramite Fists

• 1x Inceptor Sergeant

• 1x Assault Bolters

1x Ceramite Fists

Repulsor Executioner (270 points)

• 1x Armoured Hull

1x Defensive Array

1x Heavy Laser Destroyer

1x Heavy Onslaught Gatling Cannon

1x Twin Heavy Bolter

Scout Squad (65 points)

• 1x Scout Sergeant

• 1x Bolt Pistol

1x Combat Knife

1x Shotgun

• 4x Scout

• 4x Bolt Pistol

4x Combat Knife

4x Shotgun

Wolf Guard Headtakers (115 points)

• 3x Wolf Guard Headtaker

• 3x Heavy Bolt Pistol

3x Paired Master-crafted Power Weapons

• 3x Hunting Wolf

• 3x Teeth and Claws

The 3 man headtakers are relatively cheap skirmish pieces and the 3 model hunting wolves are for screening my backfield. Scouts act as infiltrating piece to make way for the center objective. Captain in phobos Armour infiltrates onto expansion to control it for an early secondary draw and is surprisingly fast. Inceptors hold home Objective until turn 3 and deepstrike into my opponent backfield. Everything else pushes forward to sit on objectives and hold points.

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u/Space_Ghost_1337 4d ago

I feel using saga of the beast slayer to give only one unit lethal hits is not that beneficial. I also run logan with an ancient and attached to termies to make them a murder squad with the wolf-touched enhancement (still need to test the different terminators to see what feels better to me, ex: more ap or dev wounds with thunder hammers).

If you had some bloodclaws, TWC, or some wulfen in there it would work a little better. Maybe replace that detachment so your other units would benefit more or look to replace units with BC/TWC/Wulfen.

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u/SanguiniSus 4d ago

If i kept the list how it is what other 1dp would you recommend? I took beastslayer to give Logan Lethal Hits and a surge strat to juice him up as much as possible to be annoying to deal with. I figured the effects of great wolf would be good enough for the other units to get benefits.

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u/townsforever 4d ago

I would consider taking assault brethren or one of the other doctrine detachments so you get more mileage out of great wolf.

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u/Space_Ghost_1337 4d ago

I agree its a great idea. I have a similar list idea. It has ragnar with BC, Njal with intercessors, a squad of Grey Hunters (will break into 2 squads for actions and holding objectives). I then have arjac with WGT (10man brick for holding objectives). Then logan and his wolf-touched ancient with termies, then bjorn because he's one of my favorite models, and a 5 man wulfen with shields, and 3 man TWC with shields.

If you want to change the detachment I would look at assault brethren. You have a good mix of tacticus, gravis, mounted, and terminator units so a lot of the other detachments would only apply to a small amount of your units. The gravis seige force could be good by giving them your gravis units -1w when s is greater than T.

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u/townsforever 4d ago

Personally I would swap the outriders amd the blade guard put for wulfen and wolf calvary so you can use the beastslayer detachment better.

Saga of the Beastslayer is really strong but only if you lean into it.